By G.A.Ponsonby
The SNP and Labour, the two biggest groups in The City of Edinburgh Council, have come to an agreement that will see them operate together to serve the best interests of the people of Edinburgh.
In an announcement that came as a surprise to many, the bitter rivals have formed an alliance that will ensure a majority administration will take the capital’s local authority forward.

The agreement follows last week’s local authority elections that saw both parties gain seats at the expense of the Lib Dems.  Labour’s tally of twenty councillors will now be joined by the SNP’s group of eighteen to form a clear majority in the 58 seat council.

The two groups held discussions over the last few days and the agreement was welcomed by both the SNP and Labour group leaders.

Andrew Burns, Labour Group leader, said: “After listening to the will of the electorate and after intense negotiations over the last few days I am delighted that we have managed to reach an agreement to lead the city of Edinburgh for the next five years.

“Edinburgh electors gave a very clear mandate to Labour and the SNP, delivering 38 out of 58 councillors.  A Labour-SNP coalition will now provide the stability and certainty needed to move Edinburgh forward.”

Steve Cardownie, SNP Group leader, said:

"The SNP looks forward to working in partnership with the Labour group with a progressive and exciting agenda to meet the challenges the city faces.

"With this strong partnership we are best placed to ensure Edinburgh serves its citizens well and emerges from the recession quickly and strongly.  Our groups’ economic policies can complement one another and we are confident they will deliver for the people of the city."

Chief Executive Sue Bruce, who was notified of the agreement today, said: "I look forward to working with the new administration, and indeed all councillors, over the next five years.

"A successful Council needs a partnership between the elected members who set the direction and policies, and the officers charged with putting that into practice.  Together, our responsibility is to ensure that we take Edinburgh forward and make a real difference to the people who live and work here."

The coalition parties have agreed the following division of positions: the Labour Party will nominate candidates for the positions of Leader and Lord Provost; the Scottish National Party will nominate candidates for the positions of Deputy Leader and Deputy Lord Provost.

Edinburgh constituents are sure to welcome the mature decision by both parties to work together against a backdrop of trams chaos that has blighted the city.

The alliance will raise eyebrows but many will hope that it can succeed and become a catalyst for a more constructive approach to Scottish party politics.


# davemsc 2012-05-07 21:48
I suspected this would happen, as it was the only sensible solution. I await whether the city will start improving again.
# Triangular Ears 2012-05-07 21:54
Not sure if this is a mistake for the SNP or not. I suppose it may make it difficult for Lamont to behave like the Harpy she usually is in the parliament if she is working with her enemy in the local council.
# curley bill 2012-05-07 22:02
Well, she did say to the fragrant Izzy Fraser that the Labour party would work with any other party in local government, and she's true to her word (in this case).
I only hope the SNP in Edinburgh have a mighty long spoon...
# rgweir 2012-05-07 22:03
I was listening to the politics prog on BBC SCOTLAND at 10 till 10.30,There was no mention of the deal in edinburgh council.When were the media told about the deal?
# Mark 2012-05-07 22:14
Well done to all the SNP & Labour councillors working together for our great city of Edinburgh.
This is the only way forward.
# Jim1320 2012-05-07 22:34
I can imagine that Ruth and Wullie are disconcerted over this.
# Soixante-neuf 2012-05-07 22:38
Miracles never cease.
# fittie 2012-05-07 22:58
I,m not happy about this ,the SNP should have become the opposition and left the unionist parties to run Edinburgh. A coalition of labour and the tories would have cost the unionists votes
# Edna Caine 2012-05-08 00:40
Aye, and abandon the people of Edinburgh to what?

It's not all about "votes"
# Barontorc 2012-05-07 23:27
This is grown up politics and Labour better watch what they are about from now on in Edinburgh. It also goes without saying, that the SNP keep to their target aims and work to convince others of the rights of Scotland and the weakness of this bum Union.

I welcome this development. Well done Andrew Burns and Steve Cardownie!
# src19 2012-05-07 23:56
OT: Scottish Government's independence referendum question 'is biased'

The House of Commons Scottish Affairs Committee try to be funny as the report is called "Do you agree that this is a biased question?"
# Dcanmore 2012-05-08 01:18
or... Do you agree that you've never heard of the House of Commons Scottish Affairs Committee?

and... Do you agree that the House of Commons Scottish Affairs Committee are totally irrelevant to the independence movement?
# Triangular Ears 2012-05-08 08:03
You've got to be kidding?

Their argument is that the "Do you agree..." bit is biased, and they conduct a survey to find out if it's biased, by asking their own question in the same way that they criticise as being biased?

I agree with anyone who thinks that this report is biased.
# proudscot 2012-05-08 11:49
Quoting src19:
OT: Scottish Government's independence referendum question 'is biased'

The House of Commons Scottish Affairs Committee try to be funny as the report is called "Do you agree that this is a biased question?"

To which the obvious retort is to quote the thuggish Davidson, chairman of this biased, unionist. joke committee, "Who cares?"
# SNP George Town Branch 2012-05-08 00:59
Most sensible action, and hopefully this will be the motto of the Council till the next election or independence, whichever comes first.
# youoffmyplanet 2012-05-08 02:30
I hope both Labour & SNP members outwith Edinburgh realise just how badly this coalition was needed, compared to the only other options of Lab/Tory or SNP/Tory.

The Lib/SNP council with its small majority (& relative lack of SNP members), has driven the capital into the ground with its split decisions on the trams & budgets & Labour/Tory sniping. I look very poorly on Labour, but I would have been far more concerned if the Tories or LibDems had made a re-entry into local administration.

Steve Cardownie has secured 10 years of SNP rule, with the forthcoming 5 years being an administration where the balance of power is much less in the leading party's favour.

It would have been unthinkable to allow Labour to form administrations in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Falkirk and Stirling without any SNP involvement.

Electoral suicide to enter the referendum campaign holding up a majority administration in Dundee as our sole impressive token of urban support.

Word is that Falkirk and Stirling will be places the local Labour party will do a deal with the devil to keep the SNP out. Reasonable pacts such as this one in Edinburgh are few and far between and should be accepted, this really is not the 5 years when it is okay for the SNP to be seen as standing out in the cold. Join administrations , get responsibility, get credit if you do things well, increase party visibility, outmaneuver the constant reality of 'anyone but the SNP' coalitions......that's how to turn this into a positive re: the referendum!
# scotsgal 2012-05-08 13:44
Am from the Falkirk area and cant say I am happy to hear that, I am also aquainted with one of the conservative candiates and cant say I have any fondness for the individual.
# Marga B 2012-05-08 14:06
Scotsgal, can noone start up a pressure group to try to stop them or is that not how things are done?
# Vincent McDee 2012-05-08 03:44
Realpolitik or Political Realism, refers to politics or diplomacy based primarily on power and on practical and material factors and considerations, rather than ideological notions or moralistic or ethical premises.

I'm not exactly sure how are they going to do it, as forces mightier than local are at work here, but it sure is what the Edinburgh People needs.

At the end of the day, if one puts the issue of Independence aside, the bulk of Scottish Society is spread between these two approachs to managing public issues.

Lets give unto Independence what belongs to Independence and to Municipality Management etc.

There is no better show of maturity, sensibility and common sense than that and the Scotland we all believe in doesn't deserve any less.

Mind me! Impossibles we do straigth away...., miracles may take a wee longer.
# Marga B 2012-05-08 08:43
Politics aside, it's probably what ordinary people want. They don't get political feuds, however justified. Hope it does well, but whether the SNP HQ should be as hands-off as before is another matter.
# denmylne 2012-05-08 03:54
I think this is a mistake

why couldnt labour just have formed a minority council???

the snp managed it in 2007, why cant the council in edinburgh do it. that way the SNP can support the motions it agrees with and vote against those they dont??

this only gives credibility to the labour councillers who will now continue to blame the snp government and councillers in edinburgh for the the trams fiasco. you realise this will be the only place in scotland where snp and labour people will sit in the same room? i fully expect labour to try and smear the snp councillers at the very first opportunity
# fynesider 2012-05-08 11:01
They do sit in the same room in Holyrood - they just don't agree with each other. Hopefully this may have an effect in Holyrood and Ms Lamont can stop her continual carping!
# rodmac 2012-05-08 04:01
I think this could be positive news, and if they are both serious about making this coalition work, they have a good chance to do so.

# edinburgh quine 2012-05-08 04:35
Perhaps this is an example of some Labour Party members recognising that the SNP are not the boggie men central office has made them out to be.

After all, for people on the left of the labour party, the SNP has more policy they recognise than their own party.

Has anyone seen this...

If more of this was happening on the run-up to the referendum....
# dogcollar 2012-05-08 06:25
A trickle then a flood
# scottish_skier 2012-05-08 06:50
Yes, Scotland's two biggest parties put aside their differences (as best they can) and form a coalition to govern the capital. This has great symbolic significance if it can be made to work.

The Scotsman link just confirms poll data - it is Labour voters who will carry the yes to independence. Lib and Tory voting independence supporters have already largely left their parties behind to back the SNP, Greens etc after all... Hence the important symbolic nature of SNP and Labour working together. When Labour stop opposing for opposition's sake and start clearly working with the SNP in the run up to the referendum (to oppose to the bitter end would threaten their survival in an independent Scotland), the end of the union will be complete.
# Exile 2012-05-08 07:43
Yeah, but I found it revealing that the issues Bob Thompson cites are many of the reasons I would call myself a nationlist. But his line is essentially 'I'm not a nationalist, but.....' A lot of folk, particularly labourites, have a gey queer view of what it is to be a 'nationalist'.

And the whole article's slanted from the position of 'if we don't have the option of devo-max, I'd vote for indepedence', 'there's a danger that....', etc. It's hardly a ringing endorsement of Independence, unfortunately.
# edinburgh quine 2012-05-08 11:04
Exile -

You will have heard women say the same thing. I'm not a feminist, but....

They think it's all about nae makeup, hating men and wearing dungarees, but of course it's not.

As with folk who say "I'm not a nationalist..." that's all about thinking we're right wing and better than everyone else, which is of course is rubbish.
# Marga B 2012-05-08 08:47
"There’s a need to protect people from what’s happening at Westminster.” Key quote from Labour man.
# Mr Rational 2012-05-08 06:33
There was no alternative for either side, and while on one hand this is adult grown up politics, beware of Greeks bearing gifts...

I do not trust them.
# Juteman 2012-05-08 06:39
Quite a few Labour voters at my work have said they will vote for independence, even though they hate the SNP.
# ituna semea 2012-05-08 18:06
Iname="Juteman"]Quite a few Labour voters at my work have said they will vote for independence, even though they hate the SNP.
I presume you are from the home of jam and journalism. I suggest that there are more people with an aversion to Independence/Separation who have voted SNP, check the figures.
# Juteman 2012-05-08 18:18
The folk i know who vote SNP, also want independence. Most of us are ex-labour. The few folk i know who still vote labour, still think of the SNP ss tartan tories, so won't vote for them. As the results show, that myth is dying out.

Post edited by NNS Mod Team
# UpSpake 2012-05-08 06:53
SNP Beware. You are sliding into bed with the lot that brought us the debacle of the Trams and presided over the criminal activities of the Building department and the Statuarory notice scam. This is yet to explode and the Trams never will be a success.
So hanging your coat on this toxic hanger is probably going to come back and bite you big time.
Keep your distance from this mob is my best advice.
# Mei 2012-05-08 07:55
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer !

Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC)
# A_Scottish_Voice 2012-05-08 07:11
Sorry for being O/T, but not only have BBC Scotland removed accountability by closing their blogs, but it looks like BBC Points of View are at it as well.

The BBC seems to be a law unto themselves.

Edit –

The closed threads I referred to have now been reopened and my comments criticizing BBC Scotland have been reinstated. How bizarre.

There has aslo been clarification on the BBC website of how the gains were calculated,

"Council control and seat change is based on council seats at dissolution."

Thanks to lurker2020 for that.
# Exile 2012-05-08 07:45
Perhaps they're closing in on themselves under the pressure of criticism. I'd leave them to sulk and get on with more important things. What about some media professionals getting together to launch an initiative for a 'Scottish Broadcasting Corporation'?
# taimoshan 2012-05-08 13:23
Managed to get a wee dig in at BBC Scotland in today's Express - and no I don't care that people will be able to equate my nom-de-plume with my real name!
Onwards for Scotland we are winning - a glass half full day!
# A_Scottish_Voice 2012-05-08 13:33
That's funny I managed to get one through on the Scottish Sun as well.
# taimoshan 2012-05-08 13:42
Excellent - we must write more to the papers and expose the BBC and Labour!
# taimoshan 2012-05-08 13:58
How do I find the Sun letters page?
# A_Scottish_Voice 2012-05-08 15:38
I am not sure about the letters page.
# Marga B 2012-05-08 14:11
It's still not justifiable, for all they "explain" it.

No internal UK coherency in standards - but heh, international coherency for municipal elections worldwide - dictate of international press standards and the opinion of 2 university professors (for this level of elections only).
# A_Scottish_Voice 2012-05-08 15:40
That is true, but the fact that they made the change shows that they must have been beginning to feel the heat.
# RTP 2012-05-08 07:56
I would like for someone to ask Willie Bain about this when we have people like him saying Lab oppose anything the SNP say I would be very careful,if it is possible for them to work together fine but the names of Wendy,Gray and now Lamont spring to mind and what they stand for.
# Angus 2012-05-08 07:56
I dont trust the labour mafia.
# From The Suburbs 2012-05-08 07:58
Listening to that voice of reason Ian Davidson on Call Kaye re Independence question.
# Macart 2012-05-08 08:02
You mean he's ventured outside of his natural London habitat?
# scottish_skier 2012-05-08 08:39
I liked the way it was highlighted clearly by one 'impartial' correspondent that the Westminster 'separation' committee comprised of 4 Labour MPs and 4 English Tories in addition to Lib dems....
# ituna semea 2012-05-08 18:12
Davidson is the epitome of the political bully boy, that does not mean he is not correct about Mr Salmond's extremely dodgy referendum question. Of course they are birds of a feather.
# G. Campbell 2012-05-08 08:03
Disappointing to hear that Stefan "stage 1" Tymkewycz failed in his attempt to oust Steve "stage 8" Cardownie at the weekend. Better luck next time.



THE chairman of the British Olympic Association has bitterly criticised Scottish football fans for snubbing the London Games.

Colin Moynihan said he was “disappointed” that 90 per cent of tickets for matches to be played at Hampden Park in Glasgow had not yet been sold.

He also admitted the SFA’s fear that participation in a Team GB football team would cost the nation its footballing independence was “a justifiable concern”.
# Triangular Ears 2012-05-08 08:19
This is the 'Miniature' for Sport from a long time ago, isn't it?
# Cattanach69 2012-05-08 10:00
A former Tory Minimouth for sport criticising Scots! What a surprise!
# Old Smokey 2012-05-08 12:17
Still 90% unsold?
Quietly sniggering at this
And now 'mini-me'Moynihan is upset tha we choose not to roll over for them
# pmcrek 2012-05-08 14:41
They'll bus people up from England to avoid embarrasment just like the BNP do.
# Angus 2012-05-08 18:15
Aye, me also, the Olympics is about britishness, even if they include Scotland, its England all the same.
# Mad Jock McMad 2012-05-08 08:31
The point of any coalition is there will be horse trading and clear lines in the sand with respect to what can and can not happen.

That Labour in Edinburgh has opted to go into coalition with the second biggest party rather than a mix of Libdem/Tories indicates commonsense by local Labour councillors or reflects the East-West divide in Labour over independence/devo-max. I see the hand of McLeish and Chisholm in this decision both of whom have long opposed the London Labour directive espoused by Willie Bain.

Labour's Glasgow heartlands are fast becoming isolated from the rest of the Labour vote in their London centric approach to the SNP. Without the major boost of the collapsing Tory and Libdem vote they would have been toast in Glasgow.

London Labour's MSM mouthpieces can bleat what ever they want the reality is realpolitik is breaking out across the rest of Scotland.
# Seagetagrip 2012-05-08 08:36

On Call Kaye, Davidson continually emphasises the need to the Referendum question to be decided by the Electoral Commission. In other words we should not trust the Electoral Commission as far as we could throw it. There is a pressing need for International monitoring and total neutrality in the decision re the question.
# proudscot 2012-05-08 12:51
Quoting Seagetagrip:

On Call Kaye, Davidson continually emphasises the need to the Referendum question to be decided by the Electoral Commission. In other words we should not trust the Electoral Commission as far as we could throw it. There is a pressing need for International monitoring and total neutrality in the decision re the question.

In a reversal of the "Willie Bain" mantra, I would oppose anything proposed by Ian Davidson, arch-unionist Labour thug.
# Robert Louis 2012-05-08 13:00
Ian Davidson gets dafter every day.

The electoral commission do not set referendum questions, they merely comment or offer advice on them.

Indeed, the electoral commission have NEVER to my knowledge set a referendum question.The Westminster AV referendum question was set by Westminster, and advice and comment was given by the electoral commission.
# ituna semea 2012-05-08 18:16
"There is a pressing need for International monitoring and total neutrality in the decision re the question."
You never said a truer word,unconsciou s irony perhaps.
# Marga B 2012-05-08 08:50
What's the calibre of Labour councillors in Edinburgh?
# mordor 2012-05-08 09:39
Quoting Marga B:
What's the calibre of Labour councillors in Edinburgh?

Pretty decent and well meaning people by all accounts as with most people in all political parties. Would I employ any of them? Not too sure to be honest.
# Marga B 2012-05-08 09:53
Maybe I should have asked if there was a more open attitude among all councillors not just Labour than for example apparently in Glasgow.
# tartanfever 2012-05-08 13:03
Edinburgh doesn't have the same die hard Labour mentality Marga. Remember Glasgow is steeped in the history of the political left, the Red Clydesiders for example.
# ituna semea 2012-05-08 18:17
They are similar to Steve Cardownie perhaps.
# Marga B 2012-05-09 08:17
Fair point.
# balbeggie 2012-05-08 09:06
This is not the first time there has been a coalition between Labour and the SNP in Edinburgh. There was one from 1992 and 1996 when Norman Irons was the SNP Lord Provost of Edinburgh. It worked well then.
# pmcrek 2012-05-08 09:58
Lets hope its a success and ushers in a new era of mature debate.

Ever the optimist :)
# Jim1320 2012-05-08 10:28
Agreed, and if it does work it will make dinosaurs like Davidson and Weir look like total prats.
# .Scot 2012-05-08 12:23
A bit of a shocker here as Labour have curiously refused to work with the Scottish National Party Councillors in East Lothian selecting instead to work with their Conservative Party Unionist allies. The SNP minority administration had been re-organising departments and wasted spending under the SNP administration to share & co-opt vital services [especially Elderly Care & Social work access services] and adminstrations with Mid Lothian and obviously the city council. The hard pressed people of East Lothian will most certainly feel the dark clouds of a return to the corrupt behaviour of Unionist Labour who were found attempting to give away millions in public cash to retiring executives, wasted millions on Unison deals such as free office space etc which were all repaired by David Berry's supervision. I live in hope that the corrupt deals between party funding through Trades Unions and the Co-Operative & Labour Party kick-backs from the public purses.

I feel sorry for the good people of East Lothian who are again let down by a tiny minority who turned out to vote down their adminsitation.

Now the huge question: We all know it is past time for a Scottish Broadcasting Commission and a Scottish Electoral Commission but is it also time for compulsory Voting in order to get a better democratic picture? Perhaps a charge of £200+ for non-participation added to Local taxes would encourage a better turnout than 30%?
# Marga B 2012-05-08 14:14
On the subject of post-electoral coalitions, is there really nothing anyone can do? Vote Labour, get into bed with the hated Tories.
# bigbuachaille 2012-05-08 12:34
There are plenty of Labour supporters out there who will vote for independence: here's one former big noise who will. (Former Scottish Labour chairman Bob Thomson)
# Aplinal 2012-05-08 13:27
This is quite true. We should not think that pro/anti independence relates to SNP (plus Greens) and everyone else. For example the polling evidence appears to suggest that Glasgow would vote 60/70% YES.

I commented on the Guardian - Jackie Ashley's column - that a post Independent Scotland needs robust politics. I do not want (and do not envisage) the "one party state" argument so beloved of short-sighted Unionists. I simply do not believe that it will be like that.

Edinburgh could be an example of consensual politics, one that I would like to see in an even more pluralistic / more "pure" PR-based Holyrood.

Once Labour "gets it" I think they will see a benefit for their supporters in an Independent Scotland.

In the meantime, perhaps they will explain to us WHY a dependent Scotland is so attractive to them, their supporters, and the rest of Scotland?
# .Scot 2012-05-08 13:30
But just how far would the current Labour support be divided between Status quo, Devo+ or Devo Max? That is the real fear of Unionists such as the BBC, David Cameron, Labour and Bob Thomson.

I suspect that Status quo, in a three question referendum, would get the smallest support even though the Unionist camp swear that Status Quo would receive the largest share of the Scottish vote.

All these machinations leave New Labour's mass of undecided supporters and the LibDems Federalist members looking for a third option to include their preference for something more than the failed 300 year old Status Quo.
# Dundonian West 2012-05-08 13:35
"Scottish Conservatives leader Ruth Davidson has urged disillusioned Liberal Democrats to switch their support to her party, telling them there "is a home for you with the Scottish Conservatives".
Herald on-line today.
Aye.Stronger together than apart.
Where have I heard that before?
# scotsgal 2012-05-08 13:48
And I am sure that is going to work, many people would rather cut off their own right hand than vote Conservatives, especially now. It just proves how they just dont get it. People lost faith in the LibDems because of the Conservatives policies.
# pmcrek 2012-05-08 14:46
Going by all the lost deposits and lost seats, the "disillusioned" Lib Dems have already abandoned the party.
# Talorcan 2012-05-08 13:49
We must remember that the main object of the SNP's existence is the independence of our country, not the existence of the SNP. Whether we like it or not we will have to work with politicians from other parties. Shouting our mouths off at the Labour Party will in the end achieve nothing. We must endorse pragmatism. And there exists a very early example of this. Sir John Mentieth (fause Mentieth) was the traitor who handed Sir William Wallace over to the English, yet Robert the Bruce eventually accepted Mentieth into 'the King's Peace', and Mentieth became one of the signatories of the Declaration of Arbroath. Bruce knew that he had to work with people like Mentieth for his country's sake. It's the same today. It's our ultimate independence that counts: everything else relating to Scottish politics comes second to that. 'Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer'.
# Dundonian West 2012-05-08 14:01
Dundee's SNP new Lord Provost.
Majority council.
The Courier on line.
Staunchly anti-independence.Conservative newspaper.
# drumoyneguy 2012-05-08 14:11
Did no one see the Scotland regional bulletin that was embedded in this morning edition of the breakfast show of the bbc, the repeated five minute slot had as a main story The House of Commons Scottish Affairs Committee story on biased question, This had a full size video backdrop of a union jack being unpicked as the presenter read the story unseen. That is nothing short as blatant propaganda.
Labour, Scottish Nation Party, I am working class voter who has never voted labour, if you lay with a dog you come up smelling like them.
# Dundonian West 2012-05-08 14:24
Sounds like a method worthy of an overseas one party state broadcaster.
# scottish_skier 2012-05-08 15:24

Another unionist party defection. This time a Lib Dem to independent.

"Ms Campbell said her defection was based on uneasiness with the Liberal Democrats role as part of the Westminster coalition. "
# Harry.Shanks 2012-05-08 15:33
A bit strange - presumably she was sufficiently at ease only 5 days ago, to stand under the LD banner?
# Old Smokey 2012-05-08 15:52
A bit O/T
This should bring a smile (wry or otherwise) to some faces.
BBC advertising a job for a Political Analyst in their Political Analysis & Research Department
You need to have 'experience of and expertise in the workings of the Labour Party', ideal for a party member I would say.
# scottish_skier 2012-05-08 16:03
Ha ha. Brilliant.
# GrassyKnollington 2012-05-08 16:08
good to see it formalised!
# Legerwood 2012-05-08 17:14
Completely O/T but no apologies: the woman who was parlaysed from the neck down after a riding accident has completed the London Marathon wearing a Bionic Suit. It took her 16 days.
# scottish_skier 2012-05-08 20:53

Brian Taylor seems just a little unhappy with an SNP-Labour coalition in Edinburgh.

If that's the case, it confirms my conclusion that the coalition is a good thing.
# Marga B 2012-05-08 21:02
Why does Taylor say "the issues to be determined include the fundamental question of independence and Scotland's constitutional future which no amount of inter-party negotiation can elide."

The idea that being Labour means you can't be independentist? Isn't that a rather narrow position?
# Ard Righ 2012-05-08 22:45
I'd love to be optimistic about Edinburgh Council, the reality is that they have fxxxxd up this town so badly and been doing so since the 1920's. The recent glut of increasingly poor decisions has ground Edinburgh to a near halt and is unlikely to be solved by further committee decision.
Edinburgh city council conveniently ignores the fact that they are servants ignoring their masters, the sovereign people. A good start would be to strip out the bloated bureaucracy and at least 90% of the numpties that suck the public purse with their incompetence, fat state pensions and disempowering policy.
Vision, competence and resolution is what is required, this can only come from a benign dictatorial management of profound understanding and experience.
No one would run a business and survive the way they behave with all the worst aspects of glacial and reactionary decisions based on little or no observation and experience of feeble minds wasting our resources on works that do not solve problems. Traffic calming insanity, the scams (trams), dire planning policy, corrupt land deals, brown envelopes and solicitors, waste disposal..... every where you look at this grand assemblage of utter incompetence and corruption, would fill a book so large and negative, it would voluminously fill an entire bay of a library shelf, which, if it were in the Central Lending library, would be stained with an imperial veneer so thick you would swear it was the wood of the good and the great. To top it all off, Edinburgh City Council produces their own sickening propaganda rag at the expense of the taxed.

Get rid of the whole and all political sludge inherent in the local councils. De-politicise.
# oldnat 2012-05-08 22:58
So you think that those councils which are traditionally run by independents are more efective?

A bit of evidence would be useful.
# sneckedagain 2012-05-08 23:06
Councils run by independents cluster around the bottom on most indicators of service delivery. Check it out.
Independent councils rarely have any strategy,any coherent aims and lack the rigorous scrutiny that party politics brings to council administration.
I live in one (till last Thursday). Its incompetence was almost beyond description and the paid officials,not the councillors, did as they wished

I have just watched Newsnicht. Might it be possible do you think for the BBC to get the SNP symbol correct?
Very noticeably the SNP man was interrupted continuously and the Labour man was not interrupted at all.

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