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  By a Newsnet reporter

Former Secretary of State for Scotland Michael Moore has said that he believes there will be no objections from EU member states to an independent Scotland being granted its own EU membership.

The MP, who was recently sacked from his Ministerial role, was giving an interview to Catalan News Agency ACN when he was asked about Catalonia and Scottish EU membership.

Michael Moore insisted that he saw "no reason to believe that any country around Europe would have an in-principal objection to any new Member State coming forward and I don't mean Scotland as I mean anywhere in the European Union".  He added that "the EU had a proud record in Europe in recent times of expanding its borders and including people in".

The admission from the former Secretary of State comes despite warnings from his coalition colleagues and others in the anti-independence campaign group Better Together that a newly independent Scotland would experience obstacles in the shape of objections from existing EU members.

Mr Moore himself has previously claimed that Scotland would in fact be expelled from the European Union if Scots vote Yes in September 2014, and have to try to renegotiate a way back in to the EU.

Similar claims have been made by head of Better Together, Labour MP Alistair Darling who has said a newly independent Scotland could face a wait of almost a decade before being granted EU membership.

Michael Moore was responsible for negotiating the Edinburgh Agreement on behalf of Westminster, which created a legally binding background to the independence referendum.  However, despite widespread praise for his efforts, he was recently unexpectedly sacked from his post and replaced by Lib Dem colleague Alistair Carmichael.

Mr Moore subsequently revealed he had been asked to resign his position by Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg, but refused.

The Scottish Government has insisted that EU membership will be negotiated between the period of a Yes vote in 2014 and the point at which Scotland becomes officially independent of the UK - expected to be around 20 months later.


Below is the full interview given by Mr Moore

Comments  

 
# springster 2013-10-24 06:37
Well, well a refreshingly honest Michael Moore providing a boost to the Yes campaign. I wonder if the BBC will employ the same news blackout of this as they did with Lucinda Creighton's remarks when she backed the SNP view.

Something tells me BBC Scotland's interest in Michael Moore is about to diminish.
 
 
# rabkae 2013-10-24 13:33
This is no road to Damascus moment, but simply an example of Moore being interviewed not by some soft and cuddly BBC hack but by the genuine article who will not allow the usual outpouring of garbage in the guise of hard fact to go unchallenged. Moore had to play to the audience for fear of being caught out - something he doesn't have to worry about here thanks to our MSM.
 
 
# mealer 2013-10-24 07:25
Mr Moore has moved from saying Scotland will be thrown out of Europe to saying we'll continue but will have to negotiate.Actually,theres not much to negotiate.We already follow all the rules.All the monies we currently get from EU will continue unchanged.The only thing to negotiate is how much Scotland will pay in.Thats a bit tricky for the NO Scotland camp because they cant argue that Scotland will be worse off if we leave the UK,but still have to contribute more to the EU.
 
 
# Talorgan 2013-10-24 07:36
If he really wanted to get back at those who sacked him he should sign the YES Declaration.
 
 
# Galen10 2013-10-24 07:51
Whilst it is always heartening to see a sinner converted, it is something of a shame that Mr Moore didn't have the "cojones" to say this when in power, rather than parrot the Better Together default scare story!

As sprinter notes, his value to the MSM will not be helped by his belated road to Damascus moment; in fact it just makes him look weak and cynical for advocating an argument he knew was flawed.

He got what he deserved for being just another Coalition principle void.
 
 
# clootie 2013-10-24 08:20
Galen 10

That is the measure of a LibDem in the Westminster huddle. They will say whatever the master demands at the time.

We now know how untrustworthy they are when tested.
 
 
# Leader of the Pack 2013-10-24 08:09
And once again I repeat the No campaign base this assertion like all their others on the premise that the rUK will continue on as the UK and Scotland will be a brand new seceded state of the UK.
A seceded state which they assert will be obligated to take on a part of the UK debt but have no claim to assets or status.
A ludicrous position clearly illegal illegitimate and undemocratic.
And its this assertion that should be exposed for the lie it is not the follow on claims that piggy back on this single worthless baseless assertion.
The legality of the status of the constituent parts of the UK is enshrined as the Act of Union 1707 and no amount of assertion can change the legality of this position. The Parliamentary union is the UK and the UK is the Parliamentary union it is not England Wales and NI!
Keep making this point at every given opportunity.
 
 
# flying haggis 2013-10-24 08:11
You have to wonder how many others, like him, in a position of power are just plain lying about Scotland as well. How many of them know the truth but dare not utter it.
A real shame to see he was only compelled to tell the truth to get back at the people who sacked him.
 
 
# RTP 2013-10-24 08:13
I have no sympathy for him as all he did at Scottish Questions was slag off the SNP Government and MPs,if he had any guts he would have said what he thought but then he is a Lib and he did not wish to look different from the rest.
 
 
# src19 2013-10-24 14:00
Totally OT: I have mentioned this before NNS copyright at the bottom of the site shows 2012 we are nearly in 2014.
 
 
# jdman 2013-10-24 14:45
Im with RTP on that I have zero sympathy for that man his shameless lies were one thing but to come out and say the exact opposite now he no longer has a job with any hint of chagrin is breathtaking in its arrogance that he thinks nothing of doing a 180 degree turnaround,
may we see another road to Damascus moment with Darling?
I wont be holding my breath, he's too deep in the quagmire to do a reversal and haul himself out.
 
 
# WRH2 2013-10-24 18:02
I think I see the chances of ermine and joining his pal Lord Jeremy Purvis in the HoL fast disappearing. After selling his soul to the Devil, he will have no reward. No credibility so unlikely to be elected ever again. Silly boy!
 
 
# Am Beachdair 2013-10-24 19:14
Whether Mr Moore is right or wrong is immaterial. The 2014 Referendum does not authorise the Scottish Government to approve or disapprove Scottish membership of the EU.

The SNP and the present Scottish Government have no mandate whatsoever to decide strategic policies for an independent Scotland at this stage. That applies to the EU question, the currency, security and many another issue. One of the main reasons for looking for independence is to do away with autocratic government, so we have to start as we mean to continue.

Scots who believe ‘independence in the EU’ – which itself is an oxymoron – will get Scotland out of the Common Fisheries Policy are seriously mistaken.

YES to REAL independence, NO to the EU overlord.
 
 
# AlastairMcIntyre 2013-10-24 21:43
What is it about so many Scots wanting an Independent Scotland to be in the EU? I am 100% for an Independent Scotland but equally 100% against being in the EU. Being in the EU would cost us a net £600 million a year and would compromise our Independence. I want an Independent Scotland to be a country where we ditch these old and tired institutions and forge a country with a vision of a new way of operating in the global marketplace. Even ministers in the EU are questioning if the EU is relevant any more.
 
 
# James 2013-10-24 21:44
To anyone acquainted with the European integration movement the assertion that independent Scotland would be discriminated against by the EU was always nonsense. Those advancing the argument were always personally in a position to know that they were spouting coldly deliberate, malignant lies.

The SNP policy is correct in the respect that negotiations can take place during the period immediately before the date of formal independence. but that has nothing to do with continuing Scottish "membership" of the EU. Scotland cannot become a member of any institution until it becomes a full internationally recognised state, which is why any talk of continuing an existing EU membership is nonsense.

For much the same reason, the necessary EU referendum cannot be held until the constitution permitting it is in force. And to date, the EU has never admitted any state until it had previously become a member of the Council of Europe. So that will have to be organised first.
 

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