By G.A.Ponsonby
 
I tuned into Newsnight Scotland on Tuesday to be confronted by what appeared at first glance to be a subject many of us at Newsnet Scotland have been lamenting of late – the lack of high quality political satire in Scotland.
 
It’s simply non-existent within main stream media outlets and only by delving into cyberspace does one find evidence of the fast growing underground satire movement – of which the hilariously funny BBC Scotlandshire is an example.

Scotlandshire lampoons BBC Scotland with a riotously funny parody of our ‘impartial’ state broadcaster.

Our own Paul Kavanagh excels in his unique take on Scottish politics and National Collective has ‘The Scottish Daily Scare’ which caricatures the genre of the Unionist scare story – also known as ‘news’.

They all of course have two things in common, the first being that they offer a pro-independence satirical take on Scotland’s constitutional debate.  The second is that there is little chance of their unique brand of political humour featuring on BBC Scotland, or indeed any broadcast outlet.

All three can trace their origins back to blogs like pseudepigrapha which had hilarious spoof Scotsman front pages and the Universality of Cheese that mixed comment and satire in order to stab a potent comedic dagger at the heart of establishment Unionism.

Sadly, and predictably, Newsnight Scotland wasn’t remotely interested in discussing the lack of satire.  The real reason for the programme was a broadcast by a comedienne Susan Calman.

Ms Calman, who is Scottish, had appeared on an episode of a Radio 4 show where guests discuss news events of the week.  Nothing much wrong with that, but Ms Calman’s contribution – we are told – didn’t go down well with some Scots who let her know in no uncertain terms how they felt.

Newsnight Scotland played a clip of Ms Calman, which was accompanied by some melodramatic claims regarding complaints she had received.  According to Gordon Brewer the perpetrators were all Cybernats - were they? We don’t know.

The problem with the whole item was that it conflated two different subjects, the clear lack of ambition within Scottish broadcasting regarding satire and the reaction to a mediocre performance by a Scottish comedienne on BBC radio.

Susan Calman’s contribution on 'The News Show' raised laughs, perhaps due to the fact that her material was tailored to her audience which was home-counties middle England.  A few cheap gags that traded on the Scottish stereotype probably improved her bank balance by a few hundred quid and raised her profile.

Satire it was not, unless parroting anti-Salmond soundbites in a ham-Scottish accent now constitutes satire.  For real satire Ms Calman would have lampooned all parties who once saw the euro as an attractive currency, including the Lib Dems and Labour.

The misnaming of John Swinney as 'Sweeney' by the show host was in keeping with the general ignorance of Scotland and the jokes were pretty mild in comparison to other BBC broadcasts.  Have I Got News For You added to the gratuitous jock-bashing weekend by claiming we export "tramps" and that we could effectively "bugger off".

Ms Calman’s appearance on The News Show wasn’t her first foray into the world of Scottish politics and what Gordon Brewer refers to as ‘satire’.

Here are two more clips of the comedian appearing on the BBC where yet again Scotland and independence featured prominently.

It doesn’t take a genius to see a theme with Ms Calman when she appears on the BBC in front of an English audience as the clips demonstrate.  To be fair she doesn’t restrict her ‘satirical’ rapier wit to the SNP, Scotland also receives a generalised slap now and again from this queen of satire.

Susan Calman isn’t that funny, but good luck to her in carving out a career as a guest on the TV talk show circuit.  But to suggest that her brand of comedy is ‘satire’ is the real joke here. 

Making political points against the SNP and ‘separation’ and dressing them up as a joke is not satire and it never will be.  Nor is claiming to be objective when you are clearly pro-Union, as evidenced by a recent appearance on Alexander Armstrong’s show ‘The Big Ask’.

Turning to the offensive messages Ms Calman received after her performance, nobody condones the clowns from both sides who inhabit cyberspace and attack one another regularly, but people who post offensive messages are not representative of anything other than themselves.  It could have been worse though, satire cost the host of the Universality of Cheese his job.

A real satirist might develop some material that sought to highlight just why there are no main stream media outlets backing independence and why the BBC insists on loading its shows with pro-Union contributors – even it seems its comedy shows.

How this ended up being discussed on Newsnight Scotland is a bit of a mystery, on the day that Lord Ashdown intervened in the row over the Ian Taylor donation to Better Together one would have thought that the latter was more deserving of coverage - another topic for a satirist surely.

But whilst we're on BBC current affairs shows and cheap laughs, here’s a recording of a BBC show 'Any Questions' that had many of the targets Susan Calman has aimed at and provided just as many chuckles from the English audience. 

Is it also satire Mr Brewer?

Comments  

 
# RoBell 2013-05-01 22:53
I am a great fan of Susan Calman, she is witty erudite and a gifted thinker. I was, heretofore, a fan of the News Quiz and HIGNFY, not any more. I receive both these programmes through iPlayer as I will not support the BBC with a Telly Tax. HIGNFY was offensive and racist but typical of its smug self satisfied air and London Centric focus.

The News Quiz is a different matter. Often more aware of Europe - Sandi is Danish, and often makes comments about "foreign workers coming across here for employment", what I have noted is the growing anti-Scottish theme within the BBC and I fear it is an unconscious collusion.

Ms Calman was brilliant in the shows which she wrote "Susan Calman is Convicted" I admire her. My sense was that she was being silenced and skewed in the last News Quiz. This matches the theme of the BBC of "say nothing positive of an Independent Scotland and whatever you do, don't let on that there is detail out there." Shame really.
 
 
# thejourneyman 2013-05-02 00:28
I've never listened to Susan Calman before but the two clips here won't mean I'm rushing out to make sure I hear her again anytime soon. Dated an no funny is how i'd describe the stuff here. However, that final clip from Ask Questions, now that was offensive. There's nothing worse than an ignoramus trying to be funny and to get two on the one clip was dire. I can't remember his name but pretty sure one was the buffoon who was on you tube appearing on a Canadian News channel giving his views on Independence. Once again, despite claiming some Scottish blood his ignorance shone through as he gave the Canadians a south of England view on independence. Forget Braveheart these clips are all YES campaign recruiting gold dust.
 
 
# richardcain2 2013-05-02 01:34
"How this ended up being discussed on Newsnight Scotland is a bit of a mystery, on the day that Lord Ashdown intervened in the row over the Ian Taylor donation"

A mystery. Really??

Oh sorry, was that satire?
 
 
# DonUnder 2013-05-02 02:59
There's a fine line between self-deprication and self-loathing. I think Susan's toe is over it in much of her material.
 
 
# Zed 2013-05-02 05:52
Really don't get this Susan Calman thing. What was said and who said it? I haven't seen a single quote or piece of evidence.
Before I jump on the bandwagon of condemning everyone I would like to see what was actually said before I make a judgement.
And to Bill Leckie column in today's Scottish Sun, casual racism against Scots or anyone else is NOT satire and is NOT funny!

[Admin - There is a link to the show in the article. There are also recordings of previous performances by Ms Calman on the BBC.]
 
 
# Zed 2013-05-02 07:41
Quoting Zed:
Really don't get this Susan Calman thing. What was said and who said it? I haven't seen a single quote or piece of evidence.
Before I jump on the bandwagon of condemning everyone I would like to see what was actually said before I make a judgement.
And to Bill Leckie column in today's Scottish Sun, casual racism against Scots or anyone else is NOT satire and is NOT funny!

[Admin - There is a link to the show in the article. There are also recordings of previous performances by Ms Calman on the BBC.]



Think you mis-interpret my comments. I was referring to the accusations by Ms Calman. She mentions "death threats" What evidence is there? Who said what?
It's in the best interests of everyone to "out" these people no matter what side of the fence they are on.
I just find it utterly bizzare we have a story like this and no one knows for sure what was said to Ms Calman
 
 
# snowthistle 2013-05-02 07:04
I think much of the problem surrounding comedians who wish to comment on the independence debate is similar to that of Slab politicians and Holyrood. SLab politicians desperately want to make it onto the big stage as do comedians. The vast majority of their target audience would not understand the subtleties of the debate. There is also the problem of lack of recognition outwith Scotland of many of the main characters. Johann Lamont is ripe for satire with her "chat up lines are mince" nonsense but who would know who she was? Outside of Scotland who would get the joke?
 
 
# Soloman 2013-05-02 07:17
Don't know much about Susan Calman apart from she seemed to be a regular part of The Fred McAuley show, the same Fred who was talking to a guest and stated clearly that Alex Salmond was personally involved in the planning decision for Donald Trump's golf project.
Needless to say I no longer listen to his show!
 
 
# Galen10 2013-05-02 08:00
I actually quite like Susan Calman, and was quick to defend her from abuse - despite the fact I thought she could have handled the issue of what way she was going to vote better on the News Quiz. she was quite within her rights on her blog to say, effectively, that it was nobody's business but her own, and that NOT taking a public position made sense from her point of view.

I do think however that she totally over-reacted in here subsequent exchanges with WoS on-line, and has thereafter provided the indy-bashers with another stick to beat the Yes campaign with.

Nobody is condoning abuse from either side, but if it is true she received death threats, she should name and shame those responsible. Those attacking people asking for evidence and trying to spin it as misogyny or victim-blaming need to wind their necks in!
 
 
# clootie 2013-05-02 08:02
McAuley and Calman are both bought and paid for. They have more focus on their bank balance than the future of Scotland.
When the BBC make it clear that you have to "toe the line.....or else" you need to find a backbone.
Those individuals considered to be outside politics have a great deal of influence with regard the picture they paint. Humour has a dark side and maintaining the negative picture of Scotland in the mind of middle England is an insult.
If the script was balanced I could live with it - but that will never happen.
 
 
# heraldnomore 2013-05-02 08:12
Gosh I was about to reply to a comment from Gus, which made me chuckle, but it's disappeared.

Anyway one may have thought that a comedienne, with a balanced view perhaps, may have found some satire in donationgate, in Labour campaigning on tory funds or any number of things.

And I see that the original shock horror story in the hootsmon, the one about death threats and more, has been re-vamped. Wonder why. Have the Truth Team been on the case?
 
 
# Blanco 2013-05-02 08:14
Susan Calman is generally funny - much more so than Fred Macaulay for example - but these comedians play to the gallery, and as far as the gallery in the south of England is aware of the issue at all, Alex Salmond is an evil genius single-handedly trying to hoodwink sensible Scots into a decades-long twilight of poverty, navel-gazing and Anglophobia. There seems to be very little work being done in informing these people but to be honest, they probably don't care enough anyway. It is striking when listening to current affairs programmes on BBC how little is relevant any more to Scotland. 

Imagine a new character on the next series of Limmy's show, a Scottish comedian with 'nationality issues' - now that would be interesting!
 
 
# GrassyKnollington 2013-05-02 08:26
The aftermath of Susan Calman's allegations of online abuse ( I haven't actually seen the evidence yet, perhaps it will be clearer when I have ) highlighted a depressing phenomenon. This is where people who had heard the rumours of Susan's abuse by "cybernats" waded in on twitter to condemn it.

Obviously the Duncan Hothersall/Euan McColm fanboys & girls from the No side were going to milk the story but many Yes voters joined in. They often knew little about the story & sequence of events but were so eager to establish "reasonable nat" status they dived in anyway. That was as depressing as it was unhelpful & not for the first time left me wondering just who they were seeking to impress.
 
 
# Zed 2013-05-02 08:34
If you read the Scotsman story the only people commenting on it are from the Yes camp.
We don't even know what side of the divide made the alledged comments or what indeed was said.
All of this gives the impression of "cyberNats" issuing death threats etc.
Some poeple have jumped in too quick on this. Lets see what was said and who actually said it!
 
 
# GrassyKnollington 2013-05-02 08:52
Indeed. I would have thought an ex-lawyer like Ms Calman would have appreciated the importance of evidence when making a serious allegation. On twitter yesterday anyone asking for direction to the offending tweets was treated as if they were compounding the abuse.
 
 
# Jamieson 2013-05-02 11:14
Quote:
The aftermath of Susan Calman's allegations of online abuse ( I haven't actually seen the evidence yet, perhaps it will be clearer when I have )


There is no evidence. If there were it would have been trumpeted in four or five headlined articles in the Scotsman? In fact today the Scotsman has re-written and toned down yesterday's appalling article, which has been 'disappeared', although oddly the comments from it have been re-attached to the toned down version today. And from Zed's comment it appears the Scotsman has redacted the egregious Brit Nat comments.
 
 
# Zed 2013-05-02 12:31
Quoting Jamieson:
Quote:
The aftermath of Susan Calman's allegations of online abuse ( I haven't actually seen the evidence yet, perhaps it will be clearer when I have )


There is no evidence. If there were it would have been trumpeted in four or five headlined articles in the Scotsman? In fact today the Scotsman has re-written and toned down yesterday's appalling article, which has been 'disappeared', although oddly the comments from it have been re-attached to the toned down version today. And from Zed's comment it appears the Scotsman has redacted the egregious Brit Nat comments.



Okay, who in the No Campaign commented in today's story from the Scotsman?
 
 
# Breeks 2013-05-02 08:42
I sometimes wonder about McAuley and Calman, whether they are die hard unionists, deep thinkers or just fickle and shallow entertainers, and intoxicated with making people laugh. It's easy raising a chuckle in England to simply berate Scotland or some Scottish stereotype.

Faced with the genuine substance of actual Nationhood, and the real issues, I wonder how deep rooted their unionism runs. To raise a laugh with self or national deprecation is fine I suppose, and a comfort zone of 'easy' laughs for Scottish comedians in England, and in La-La-BBC land, that will never be challenged. But outside of that bubble, then your Scottish audience awaits...

I'm guessing however her price for appearance has jumped a notch or two now that she is considered 'edgy'. Thankfully my TV and radio both come with 'off' buttons and alternative channels.
 
 
# Blanco 2013-05-02 09:46
Susan Calman is establishment through and through. Fred Macauley is interesting though - he's been comfortably ensconsed in the BBC for a while but he comes across to me as a genuine guy without an axe to grind for the union except pure expediency. I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually came out for 'yes'.
 
 
# jamaisarriere 2013-05-02 12:39
I think both are good effective radio presenters on their particular lifestyle programme, discussing fluff like diets, hairdos & gardening - and their observational comedy on such stuff is OK. But satire & political comedy is the last stuff I'd expect from them, (they're employed largely because of that reason) and when they do talk about Scotland down south, they turn into 'Uncle Tams'.

Hey ho, there are bigger crimes.
 
 
# pomatiaH1 2013-05-02 09:08
Having listened to her show on what she called nationalism I hope she doesn't do gigs in Southern Ireland. In a few sentences she denigrated Independence. No matter how a person might dress up comments as personal, these have a wider context by implication. Especially if it is supposed to be satire.
 
 
# pmcrek 2013-05-02 09:12
Frankly, threats are a matter for the police not the Scotsman or the BBC. I Dont see any evidence of anything untoward via google or cached but that is not to say it doesnt exist.

Some pertinent questions here would be, where did the allegations of such threats actually originate? Was it from Miss Calman's blog? Newsnight? Or the Scotsman articles? Were the police contacted? Has evidence been collected and forwarded to them? If not, why not?
 
 
# xyz 2013-05-02 09:34
Another day another manufactured distraction to prevent people thinking the positive prospects for, and in, an independent Scotland.
 
 
# wee e 2013-05-02 10:11
I never heard of Susan Calman, and I didn't hear her on radio. But I was surprised to see the HIGNFY thing described as "satire" and then smoothly dismissed.

Satire, surely, is something that speaks to/against the powerful, the Establishment, from the position of the relatively powerless?

Presenting stereotypes of "Scotland" as highland dancers, drunks and tramps is the opposite of satire: it's the British Establishment baiting the relatively powerless neighbour.
 
 
# Viking Girl 2013-05-02 10:16
Susan Calman should have gone to the Police if she got death threats. I wonder why she didn't, if she didn't. Anti-Scots casual racism is becoming more common. What a pity the Race Relations Act doesn't seem to apply to us.
As I've said before, it looks to me as if some Scots are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, that's identifying with your oppressor.
 
 
# James01 2013-05-02 10:39
I could never understand why the BBC was so much in love with Susan Calman, she regularly appears on comedy shows on their channels despite being the least bit funny. Then a few weeks ago she made an appearance on the ‘Dave’ channel in an episode of ‘Alexander Armstrong’s Big Ask’. Armstrong asked her if she was in favour of independence, her response was “Of course not!”, as if it was an utterly ridiculous notion, followed by “No, I like the English”. Then it all became clear why she was so favoured, she conforms with the British establishment and gets a pat on the head for being a good little Scot.
 
 
# govanite 2013-05-02 12:33
So does she dislike the Irish or Canadians ? interesting that the complaints came from R4 listeners in some circumstances.

I'm trying to give up moaning about the media though, it is exhausting with wave after wave of negativity to wear us out. I'm trying to stay on the positive side like Yes keep advocating. Since Yes aren't complaining (yet) I'm assuming they have a strategy. Would like to hear some thunder though.
 
 
# Jamieson 2013-05-02 11:30
And here we have the Scotsman admitting they doctor the news. Comment from an Administrator on the Scotsman today.

Quote:
11:07 AM on 02/05/2013 Prjohn58 the article published yesterday was deemed subjudicial and likely to prejudice the live police enquiry into claims of abuse. Consequently it was replaced. The time of publication is clear so obviously comments prior to that refer to an earlier piece. Some comments have been removed as part of the ongoing police investigation.


I wonder if the "live police enquiry" is real or a fiction thought up by the Scotsman. And as I surmised above it HAS removed some of yesterday's comments from today's article. And I'll bet you 100 to 1 it was the egregious No supporter comments that have been removed
 
 
# Abulhaq 2013-05-02 12:16
It is the smug gitterry of programs like Have I Got News for You that is a measure of what is waiting for us before and after independence. The sour, priggish little Englander humour that passes for comedy is sickening. Trouble is Scots can innocently promote the very "stereotype" that is the butt of anti-Scottish humour. How we project ourselves and our country now matter more than ever. A more sophisticated approach is required.
 
 
# snowthistle 2013-05-02 14:42
bellacaledonia.org.uk/.../...

Alan Bissett discusses that in the video above
 
 
# From The Suburbs 2013-05-02 12:17
BBC Radio Scotland weekly newspaper review at lunchtime (12.45 circa)to-day made this the second most important story of the week and repeated the death threat claims.

At least the commentators Eugene O'Neil and Stuart Cosgrove were very fair with their comments.
 
 
# millie 2013-05-02 20:29
Cosgrove was particularly good.

www.bbc.co.uk/.../b01s0vxz at 52mins 20secs into programme.
 
 
# bipod 2013-05-02 14:00
I am sure we all remember the "Anyone but England" tshirt Scandal. It is very telling to me that the BBC and papers like the Scotsman will instantly jump to declare that Scotland is a nation of pure xenophobes over something like a ABE Tshirt, but then declare that we are all just a bunch of humourless tight arses when presented with the events of recent days.

The MSM in the UK sees Scotland as fair game, it is safe to make a couple of cliched jokes about Scotland in front of the mainly London based BBC audiences.
 
 
# Old Smokey 2013-05-02 14:09
IF Ms Calman was indeed doing 'satire' then one would expect her to be satirical about ALL participants in the independence debate.
BUT even before the referendum was announced, it was Ms Calman's raison d'etre to use Scotland and Scots in general as the butt of her 'humour', with specific attention to the SNP and Alex Salmond. Balanced? certainly NOT!
OK We Scots are supposed to have thick skins and can laugh at ourselves. But when a so called 'comedienne' makes it are all to pander to the home counties at the expense of her fellow countryman, she herself should expect a bit of stick. NOW I do not condone any threatening behaviour, let alone death threats, which I find abhorrent. BUT I'm intrigued that we have not actually seen ANY examples in the case of Ms Calman
 
 
# ubinworryinmasheep 2013-05-02 14:22
This may be nothing but having a wee look at her twitter account it seems she is an aquaintance or friend of a certain Miss Ruth Davidson.

As folks have said on here satire would have covered the whole area of Scottish politics nae just attacking the SNP....look at Spitting Image, it went for all of them in all parties. Na I think shes a tory and was having a dig.
 
 
# hetty 2013-05-02 14:46
I used to listen to both the 'news quiz' and 'have I got news for you'. I stopped a few months ago as I became very fed up listening to the patronising, racist, demeaning comments about Scotland and particularly Independence. Why are the English ( and some Scottish!) so very threatened? Also on these programmes I noticed that on a more general level, the politics has become very tame and quite right wing in fact. I defo sense a gagging of some of the old die hards on these programmes in fact. It's the usual BBC bias that now seems a daily 24/7 obsession, they need to look at the sort of hatred that they are promoting, it would not be acceptable if it were any other country and her people, they were attacking, but somehow seems ok as it's Scotland, and I'm English!! (Well from the very North so I don't consider myself very English) but glad to be well rid now, for sure.
 
 
# Moone 2013-05-02 16:13
Has anyone considered the possibility of this being a 'false flag' incident?
en.wikipedia.org/.../...

Seems entirely consistent with recent claims made about unionist offices being attacked.
 
 
# brusque 2013-05-02 16:25
Another day.
Another non-story.
Another Britnat flapping her gums about how much Scots "hate" the English.

She has already received way more oxygen than her "talent" commands. I'd honestly never heard of her, but now everybody knows her name!

I chose to let it go, it was never going to be an issue we (of the Proud Scottish and Independence leanings) could defend, especially since there seems not one iota of proof.

I'm spending my valuable time reading all the codswallop being written about the claims that the wheels have fallen off the Independence wagon; simply because Denis Canavan exercised his absolute right to say he disagreed with Alex Salmond about the use of the pound.

I have yet to find one single word where he has received threats for saying his piece, and that is how it should be.

Incidentally I agree with Mr Canavan.
 
 
# theycantbeserious 2013-05-02 16:30
Vilify the opposition in the eyes of the wider public therefore justifying your actions...sounds like "WMD claim" which led us to war....and look how true that turned out! very establishment...very imperialistic!
 
 
# samizdat 2013-05-02 16:38
You can be pretty sure if any so called Scots personality gets a regular slot on BBC Scotland then they will have towed the establishment unionist line they may even get the occasional guest slot down in the "big time"down south where they are greeted with amused tolerance(while the audience are thinking who the****'s this),chuck in a few stock remarks about Alex Salmond,chippy Scots and the like and that should ensure a return gig, well at least until until the referendum is over!
 
 
# Corm 2013-05-02 16:42
All I can say is "What abuse Susan"? No proof then it didn't happen as far as im concerned but ill give her the benefit of doubt.

I reviewed her timeline on twitter before this completely broke and I don't recall seeing anything abusive.

I'm not calling her a liar or saying it didn't happen but without evidence, it is difficult to accept (the burden of proof lies with the complainer).

Also if it is true and verifiable then the person or persons responsible can be charged. Or maybe she isnt enough of a football player or celebrity for that im never too sure on how the rules apply to various income groups these days yet if true I would take it further. If.

Not that I think its an over-reaction or anything or a wee bit o' a fantasy. I'm not suggesting that at all, not one bit.
 
 
# Shooie-B 2013-05-02 16:54
I think the dirty tricks have started, I wondered how long it would be before a Unionist pretending to be from the Indy side does something like this, the more we keep cool the more likely this kind of thing will happen.

Just a thought.

Independence2016 - Vote Yes !!
 
 
# Johnston 2013-05-02 17:26
I noticed the comment from the Scotsman has been totally removed.

# Jamieson 2013-05-02 12:30
And here we have the Scotsman admitting they doctor the news. Comment from an Administrator on the Scotsman today.

Quote:
11:07 AM on 02/05/2013 Prjohn58 the article published yesterday was deemed subjudicial and likely to prejudice the live police enquiry into claims of abuse. Consequently it was replaced. The time of publication is clear so obviously comments prior to that refer to an earlier piece. Some comments have been removed as part of the ongoing police investigation.


I wonder if the "live police enquiry" is real or a fiction thought up by the Scotsman. And as I surmised above it HAS removed some of yesterday's comments from today's article. And I'll bet you 100 to 1 it was the egregious No supporter comments that have been removed
 
 
# gus1940 2013-05-03 07:45
It will be a bit like the sensational story of David Maddox having his windows smashed (allegedly) by rampaging Indpendence supporters.

Nothing ever came of that except for the anti-Indpendence slur.
 
 
# Willow 2013-05-02 17:34
I think if she had proof we would have seen it in big bold headlines plastered across the front pages of the Scotsman.

She's the daughter of Sir Kenneth Calman & she knows exactly what she is doing & so do the big BBC bully boys.

Ot I see the BBC are looking for non Scots to take part in a Newsnight Scotland debate on Scottish independence.

bbc.in/YjUNoV

How exactly are they going to check folks nationality?
 
 
# Clydebuilt 2013-05-02 21:46
"How this ended up being discussed on Newsnight Scotland is a bit of a mystery, on the day that Lord Ashdown intervened in the row over the Ian Taylor donation"

Simple the BBC is going to use satire against Scottish Independence. Calman's the start Rory Bremner is coming next.
If the BBC was interested in satire they would never have stopped "Watson's Windups"
 
 
# weegie38 2013-05-02 22:07
I read recently of a great way to riposte casual anti-Scottish jokes.

When someone tells one about Scots' allegeded tight-fistedness, respond with something like "Aye, it's fascinating how we're so like the Jews, isn't it?"

When someone tells a joke about violent Scots, respond with something like "Aye, and amazingly, we're not even black!"

The message will get across, to those with ears to hear.
 

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