By Russell Bruce

At the NATO news conference in Bruxelles today a representative from the Belgian News Agency asked the question I have been asking NATO.  " How many sorties were flown by each of the countries taking part in the campaign?"

The answer did not produce the figures, but an assurance from Lieutenant General Charles Bouchard that every one of the 28 member and partner countries involved had contributed to the successful outcome.

The lady chairing the news conference for NATO, paused questions from reporters, to further assure the Belgian News Agency reporter that Belgium’s contribution had been ‘très important’.

In his press briefing earlier Lieutenant General Bouchard had stressed again and again that collaboration from all 28 countries had been key to the outcome.

He did single out three groups of countries: the Arab countries whose advice to him on cultural context had been invaluable as well as air and other support, the contribution from Scandinavian partners and the basing provided by Italy and Greece.

The Swedish Air Force sent 8 JAS planes to the Italian base, 41 STORMO in Sicily situated at the foot of Mount Etna. Later reduced to 5, they maintained full delivery by introducing 2 shifts to ensure the work of providing analysed intelligence reports (Recceexrep) to NATO command.

At the Italian base the Swedes enjoyed day-to-day exchanges with other countries - the US Navy, their Italian hosts and the Danish, Canadian and French air forces.  The Swedes shared a hanger with forces from Turkey and the United Arab Emirates and paid tribute to how everyone worked together and how extremely focussed all personnel were on solving their assignments.

By mid August the Swedish FL 02 unit had flown 38 missions, taken 40,000 pictures and filed 150 intelligence reports.

Reports of the Danish contribution have been posted on the comment section of news sites.  As of 24th October the Danish Air Force has taken part in 595 missions and 923 precision bomber strikes.

Michael Moore was very unwise to make the derogatory comments he did about small nations.  17 NATO Members took part and 11 other non NATO members played key roles as members of the coalition pursuing UN resolution 1973. Many of those countries were small nations or more correctly countries with smaller populations.  The size of a country’s population is not in the least relevant to either influence or ability to form collaborative alliances.

As a footnote the Nordic countries earlier this month decided on a combined joint plan for military training and exercises for the next 5 years running up to 2017.

By the time they are thinking about their next 5 year plan, Scotland might just think about looking to collaboration with Sweden, Norway Denmark and Finland if Michael Moore and his overlords thinks we are too wee to play military games with the southern remnants of HM forces.

In an independent Scotland we would almost certainly have an integrated forces structure avoiding the costly and unhelpful duplication from maintaining three separate armed forces.  We have legitimate security interests but have no ambition to straddle the globe with nineteenth century illusions of chasing a sun that never sets.

As Charles Bouchard said, the collaboration of 28 nations was key to success in the Libyan campaign.  I would not see an independent Scotland standing back when nations need to come together to provide peace keeping forces in troubled war zones or collaborative campaigns that were legally sanctioned to protect civilians.


# brusque 2011-10-24 18:17
Michael Moore will have to look for a new country, never mind a new seat; at the rate he is blundering along.

Deary me, this is what happens when you get into bed with the Tories, allow them to use you up, and spit you out when they are done - ensuring that no decent party would ever want anything to do with you again, unless they are looking for someone to bend over and grab their ankles!!!

Next up - Danny Alexander!
# call me dave 2011-10-24 18:31
At our work we call it the BOHICA syndrome

'Bent over here it comes again'

He is not doing himself any favours, or his party either.
A taxi might be too big for them next time round.
# Bambi 2011-10-24 20:25
Quoting call me dave:
A taxi might be too big for them next time round.

Down-sizing yet again is always an option
# ButeHouse 2011-10-25 00:35
The 4 Tory Leadership Candidates debated. At one point RD was asked how would she sell the Union to Scotland.

Among her answers were the UK has a seat at the UN and something else about armies or whatever.

Not sure if pensioners or those with malnourished children or husbands who've given up and slid into the bottle will be able to comfort themselves with the fact that we have large armies and a seat at the UN.

We've had Oil flowing for 40 years yet 1 in 4 of our children are on or below the poverty line and she and those like her think that price is worth paying for a seat at the UN and Trident?

# Scottish republic 2011-10-26 23:35
I suspect Mr Moore will do a Mickey Forsyth and leave Scotland to go live in England should a YES vote result be the outcome.

He certainly won't have much of a career in politics, if he actually has much of a career now.
# Keep UTG 2011-10-24 18:22
And Lord West didn`t really apologise either...........
# oldnat 2011-10-24 18:29
Indeed he didn't!

This is the text of his letter to the Belgian and Danish Embassies

His Excellency The Belgian Ambassador
Her Excellency The Danish Ambassador

23 September 2011

Your Excellencies,

I apologise unreservedly for my intemperate language during a press conference yesterday to launch proposals for a new procurement policy for the UK.

I have very great respect for your nations and people. Indeed I have enjoyed working closely with members of your armed forces over many years and have always been aware of their significant contribution to NATO and their sacrifice in conflict.

If you were able to view the question asked at the conference and my full response, I hope you would see that my exasperation was directed not at Belgium and Denmark in themselves but at those pundits whom I regard as naïve, continually trying to compare the United Kingdom's geo-strategic status with that of countries whose size and history have made us very different nations.

It was not my intention to give offence and I do regret any caused.

Yours aye
# Blanco 2011-10-24 19:38
Is that really the text of his letter?? If so that is comedy gold.
# west_lothian_questioner 2011-10-25 12:04
That's hard to swallow. He just repeated the same insult in slightly less flammatory words. However you read it, he's telling Belgium and Denmark they're too wee and too weak. What a numpty.
# Scottish republic 2011-10-26 23:36
Oh my, just read it.

# tartanfever 2011-10-24 18:30
UTG - thanks for posting that quote from Lord West, I'm surprised that it wasn't mentioned in this NATO press conference.

Personally I would prefer that we cut our ties with England's armed forces on gaining independence. I do not want to be part of their bully boy regime nor be another regiment in the US army, which is effectively where Fox and the tories want us to go.

Align ourselves with the Scandinavian countries would be much preferable. Also, lets get out of NATO. Maybe if we are going to align ourselves with anyone it should be solely to the UN ? Yes, they are not perfect but they were right with both Iraq and Libya.

Moore is letting his little bit of power go to his head. He insults his own country.
# Keep UTG 2011-10-24 19:44
Actually,oldnat takes the credit for the posting of the quote.
# oldnat 2011-10-24 19:50
Nah! I just lifted it from the source you suggested!

I thought it good, but know that some readers have difficulty wih links.

It's the teacher in me! :-)
# mato21 2011-10-24 18:35
He is definitely being used and abused by the tories,someone is feeding him all this tripe that he is continually spewing out and he is obviously so full of his own importance and not bright enough to see it He puts the image of the country yokel to shame
# scottish_skier 2011-10-24 19:51
IQuoting mato21:
He is definitely being used and abused by the tories,

I wonder if he acutally realises this.

I guess Dave et al. got together and decided to pick out the most easily malleable 'jocks' and put them in appropriate 'important' postitions to create a tartan impression.

Clegg knows the game is up north of the border and I imagine the rumours of agreements for Tories and the Libs to not stand against each other in certain seats in the next GE are true. MM and Danny boy have likely been offered seats in England next time round without being told that will never happen...
# Holebender 2011-10-25 05:28
Hey... if Tories and LibDems divvie up the constituencies that'll mean they aren't putting up candidates in every constituency. I wonder how they'll manage to spin that to exclude the SNP and others from their TV debates?
# dogbite 2011-10-24 18:49
blimey this is a cut and paste job to be sent to the BBC Scotland newsrooms. I am on the case
# govanite 2011-10-24 19:39
Someone mentioned 'Blue Bands' yesterday. Is there a wrist band associated with the referendum campaign ?
# oldnat 2011-10-24 19:52
Yes. Those of us at conference got one in our Referendum Campaign "starter pack".
# snowthistle 2011-10-24 19:54
My son has stolen mine : )
# tartanfever 2011-10-24 19:56
I'm a bit old for the wrist band, but I'm going to buy a few old fashioned SNP logo badges from here:

Let's start publicly showing our support.
# mato21 2011-10-24 19:56
How was that bar bill?
This question is aimed at oldnat
# tartanfever 2011-10-24 20:05
Mato - He's rushed off to Brussels the night to speak to Christine Lagard fer a loan..
# mato21 2011-10-24 20:11
As friends we should have a wee whip round to help ease his pain
# oldnat 2011-10-24 20:06
I made a significant contribution to the £3.67 million economic benefit that Inverness gained from Conference!
# mato21 2011-10-24 20:09
I laughed when I saw your posts and your denial that the funny spelling was anything to do with the singing juice
# oldnat 2011-10-24 20:23
And there was funny spelling in the post which apologised for my funny spelling!!!!
# Glasgow 2011-10-24 20:14
Quoting govanite:
Someone mentioned 'Blue Bands' yesterday. Is there a wrist band associated with the referendum campaign ?

How do you get a hold of one if you weren't there?
# oldnat 2011-10-24 20:30
I'll send you mine - in return for a hefty contribution to the referendum campaign fund!

They don't seem to be on the list of products from the SNP Shop yet. Hopefully they will be.
# mato21 2011-10-24 20:34
I thought for a minute you were going to ask for a hefty contribution towards the bar bill
# Aucheorn 2011-10-25 09:04
Now now, I only saw him in one bar, but he did have two pints in front of him.
# Whatsinaname 2011-10-24 23:33
Angus Robertson said all the items in the campaign packs would be available to buy although didn't mention when
# Macart 2011-10-24 19:55
Michael Moore.... Michael Moore... What to say! Well let's for a change err on the side of kindness. He's only a hapless front man. He's been used and abused to the point of absurdity. His comments and worse, the timing of his comments make him look more foolish with each passing day.

His appointment as high heid yin governor of Jocko Land is an irrelevance and an irritation. His personal stock and that of his party are at an all time low and the capper is he doesn't seem to realise all of the above. He blindly ploughs on with each poorly choreographed utterance at his masters bidding, digging an ever deeper hole for his comrades to climb out of.

I almost, but only almost feel sorry for him. Moore to be pitied than scolded.

I did say almost didn't I? :0)
# govanite 2011-10-24 19:57
Whit a show Call Kaye wiz today. Wee Cathy McDonald gets some unionist called Davie fae Glesca. He doesnae like the idea of a Scottish army, so whit does Cathy dae ? Push him to justify illegal wars ? Ask him aboot Trident 20 miles fae George Square ?
Naw, she asks him if he worries aboot the finance aspects of Independence. Quality, probing, objective journalism eh ?
Had a chuckle though when another guy told her the SNP wanted to make us all speak Gaelic.
All the unionists did was rant, boy were they sore.
# farrochie 2011-10-24 20:08
Cathy was lost; I found myself wishin Kaye was on the show.

The unionists got a peltin for their empty comments, basically their case was "we hiv tae keep the union, we jist hiv tae". One guy said independence was jist a "highland" thing, and that there was a lot of anti-English feeling in the north-east.

The final call was by a business man/ entrepreneur in Edinburgh who said independence offered great opportunities for future business.
# J Wil 2011-10-24 22:47
"we hiv tae keep the union, we jist hiv tae".

It would mak ye want tae bash them until they see sense!
# scottish_skier 2011-10-24 20:10
LOL. I heard Davie.

"We must preserve the UK. We must preserve the UK. We must preserve the UK"

Repeating it.... I was like 'Whit?'. He'll be orange order or something. Probably has a portrait of lizzie above the fire and union jack bedcovers.

I loved the Tory MSP they brought on speaking with the silver spoon in his mouth. Quality.

Don't worry folks, the only folk that made sense and were logical were those in favour of independence.
# pa_broon74 2011-10-24 20:23
I heard that too, the chat about free prescriptions benefiting only the rich was a tonic.

The 'investment banker' they had on was quick to accuse nationalists of braveheart-mania, he thinks this is some sort of emotional quest for self-determination.

I'm human so there is an element of emotion there, on braveheart, I always knew the film was over the top but the more we hear from westminster the more you have to wonder... More over though, nationalism is all about hard bitten logic, it makes sense and is the right thing.

It also gives me a warm glow thinking about it.

# mato21 2011-10-24 20:30
Just you keep on thinking about it and getting your free warm glows it's cheaper than gas and will keep you from getting hypothermia in the winter

I get great amusement from the numpties of this world Each to his own
# scottish_skier 2011-10-24 20:46
This is my favourite scene from Braveheart (vs trainspotting).

LOL. Quality.
# farrochie 2011-10-24 20:32
Quoting scottish_skier:

I loved the Tory MSP they brought on speaking with the silver spoon in his mouth. Quality.

That wis Jamie McGrigor. He complained that the SNP always shout people down then he proceeded to continuously talk over one of the callers. Ye couldnae mak it up.

Joan MacAlpine got some good points over. As scottish_skier commented, it seems the voice of reason is the voice for independence.
# Alba4Eva 2011-10-24 20:01
Just watched BBC1... I think the Uk government have some explaining to do to the Scottish government!
# roboftheburnawn 2011-10-24 20:04
What now ?
# oldnat 2011-10-24 20:08
What was it about? I'm watching BBC Parliament to see all these Unionists arguing for a referendum on "independence" - that's Brit independence from Europe, of course.
# Alba4Eva 2011-10-24 20:27
Moussa Koussa.

Available on iPlayer soon...

Yeah I've just turned on BBC Parliament... its' just weird listening to comments like; "We should trust the people to decide!" where have I heard that before? Hmmm... let me think!
# farrochie 2011-10-24 20:40
The FO comment met expectations. "MK is a private individual going about his business...can't expect us to track his every move." Standard comment we have come to expect from HMG when one of the UK's embarassing "friends" is discovered.
# Alba4Eva 2011-10-24 20:57
IT's clear to me that the UK knew about the torture of the individual's being renditioned (rendited?)... and MI6 would have known with whom they were dealing. ie. MK!

He should have been arrested and his file passed to the Lockerbie investigation. I believe that this has a long way to run yet... If those liars in Westminster think that it's story over, then they had better think again.

Wonder if we'll hear from Dr Swire in the coming days.
# tartanfever 2011-10-24 20:02
govanite - Thats both funny and worrying. I think we should have a mass phone in one day, all of us. Jam out the phone lines. When you get through and speak to the researcher pretend to be die hard labour and pose your question, if they then pick you to go on air then change your political stance altogether and baffle them with some pro independence chit chat.

Oh if I had the money i would be happy to employ people just to do exactly that..
# Purr 2011-10-24 20:10
Is there no Beginning to Michael Moore's Talent
# mato21 2011-10-24 20:16
He's one of these people who start at the top and work themselves out the door It's a special talent You need to be glaikit to start with
# govanite 2011-10-24 20:28
# J Wil 2011-10-24 22:50
He has a great future behind him.
# Harry.Shanks 2011-10-24 23:07
Ok - I'll join in:

Michael Moore will eventually rise into obscurity.
# EdinScot 2011-10-24 20:16
Well well...looks like Moore has been economical with the truth to say the least. Nothing new there, its just that his ranting rhetoric is getting more rabid and bizzare as he drowns that little bit more. His Unionism is dying a slow and painful death. I wonder if he ever thought that perhaps the Scottish electorate are war weary? I also wonder if he blocks that 1 million strong march in Glasgow against the illegal war in Iraq from his memory a bit like Tony did when he ran out the back door of the SECC?

If this is the kind of defence they have of their so called Union, then they will become the new subway boys one sandwich short of a picnic.
# govanite 2011-10-24 20:38
Sometimes with these clowns it is hard not to feel complacent.
I wonder if we are being given a false sense of security for now and I remember McCrone and the mistakes of the past and I am emboldened & determined once more.
# Briggs 2011-10-24 20:41
A brilliant Blog Post by Peter Curran.
# tartanfever 2011-10-24 20:45
Nice one Briggs, that's very good.

Especially like the translation of the House of Lords.
# Alba4Eva 2011-10-24 21:18
Oh well, can't fault the consistency of Wastemonster!

Just proved (yet again) their opposition to democracy for the people... whoever they may be!
# snowthistle 2011-10-24 21:32
Interesting article which is grudgingly complimentary to AS in the FT
# oldnat 2011-10-24 21:41
What a weird interpretation of Salmond's speech!

"Mr Salmond used his conference speech to throw his weight behind a three-question plebiscite – with the third option providing for what is called “devolution max”."

Oh, no he didn't!

He simply said that it was an OK position, for some to take.

It may be that, if the Unionists define such an FFA/DevoMax/IndependenceLit e position, that the Government will include such a position in the referendum - or it might not.
# mato21 2011-10-24 21:56
As I understood it he agreed to look at the other options if others wanted to argue for them, as you say, but I have heard nothing other than he is offering options I was starting to wonder if my mental capacity was diminishing or my hearing was going What is so difficult to understand? The only conclusion to be drawn is that the confusion being put about is to cover their own lack of arguement either for or against
# Scottish republic 2011-10-26 23:48
Thanks for the link - the comments are interesting.
# oldnat 2011-10-24 21:35
SCON leadership candidate debate on Newsnicht the nicht.
# Embradon 2011-10-24 21:48
Listening to Tories on Paxo - talking about "repatriating powers" independence from Europe etc, etc. No mention of "separatism". Funny that
# Alba4Eva 2011-10-24 22:16
Squirm... squirm.... panic... panic...

Fun to watch *:0)
# tartanfever 2011-10-24 22:30
Oh did anyone else hear Paxo's mutterings whilst Norman Lamont was talking ?

4 of them talking about Norway and how well the economy is doing. Someone points out obviously it's because of their natural resources, and whilst Norman Lamont is talking, Paxo off mic says 'but they (Norway) knew what to do with the money (meaning from oil and meaning not blowing it all away but investing it wisely)'

He has his moments I suppose.
# oldnat 2011-10-24 22:31
What a bunch of losers these Tory candidates are!

Not a single recognition of how far behind the times they are.
# Bambi 2011-10-24 22:40
Still, the other 3 didn't quite reach Margaret Mitchell's prehistoric assertion that they (the SCONs) still had a great story to tell about Thatcherism.
There's delusion, and then there's being the worst candidate in a 4-way SCON leadership race.
# Roll_On_2011 2011-10-24 23:00

What a bunch of losers these Tory candidates are!

Not a single recognition of how far behind the times they are.

Tut, tut oldnat shurely a spellink misteak.

What a bunch of Losers tossers these Tory candidates are!

Go to the back of the class.
# derek 2011-10-24 23:05
Maybe someone should remind them that while Westmidden rips itself apart over Europe, the SNP managed to attract over 80 foreign delegates to their conference.
# Roll_On_2011 2011-10-24 23:33

Maybe someone should remind them that while Westmidden rips itself apart over Europe, the SNP managed to attract over 80 foreign delegates to their conference

Thanks for that derek I hadn’t realised it was that high.
# mato21 2011-10-24 23:52
Hi Derek
It's great to see you on the site in a different frame of mind from a few months back I knew you were ripe for conversion Hope you are well
# derek 2011-10-24 23:58
LoL mato21, I remain a Scottish socialist and have high hopes (if permitted) in convincing some others.Thanks however!

Don't know to much about the "proclaimers" but maybe they could slip this line into one of their tunes Michael No-Moore!!!
# mato21 2011-10-25 00:06
Well no matter what you remain you seem a happier one and positivity may help your cause Look what it has done for the SNP

Poor Mike will be the tory fool for some time yet It would be hard to replace him there cannot be many Scots more glaikit than he is and he seems a willing punchbag
# derek 2011-10-25 00:13
Thank you,

I agree! if Mike can't tell difference between fool and fool hardy then he really shouldn't be in politics.
# oldnat 2011-10-24 23:11
I admit to no knowledge of the ways in which the said losers find satisfaction when they are all alone.

I bow to your greater knowledge.

Meanwhile, it turns out that in Englandshire's Parliament, two MPs voted both for and against the motion - trudging through two lobbies to do so.

Whether they were tossers while doing so, I can provide no enlightenment.
# J Wil 2011-10-25 08:47
I heard the speaker say 'lock the doors'. But too late perhaps.
# Legerwood 2011-10-25 12:11
Would that be the tattie SCONS by any chance?
# J Wil 2011-10-24 22:41
Any lies will do for the unionists.

They seem to place great store on insulting other countries.

I hope the Danish ambassador is reading this.

Whereas Pinoccio's nose grew longer when he told lies, Michael Moore's lips twist. (Also Gordon Brewer's).
# Bob Kingdom of Fife 2011-10-24 22:43
In a word ' Michael ' go noo , your a dead man walking in ' political phraseology ' your position of " Secretary of State - FOR - Scotland " is and as the unfortunate predecessor's who had this title were ,and you are being used as a Unionist mouthpiece spouting , WASTEMONSTER propaganda to a Scottish Electorate who are streetwise and know ' bullshit ' when its spoken .
# J Wil 2011-10-24 22:57
I started watching Newsnicht on the basis of know thy enemy, but it was so boring I switched off.

But not before I saw Glenn ditching a question from the audience about English MPs deaing with Scottish affairs. It was the only thing of interest too.

I believe he was doo dooing a Dimbleby.
# Ken500 2011-10-24 23:07
The Unionists are so stupid

Devo Max will split the No vote

Don't tell 'em
# Alba4Eva 2011-10-24 23:29
Depends what Devo Max is?

If its FFA, then I'm happy enough... Independence is won with FFA... who controls the purse strings and all that!
# Ken500 2011-10-24 23:15
Kaye the Labour Unionist? - defends Gordon Brown

Disappears to work it on Channel Five, on occasional morning shifts. Standing in when others are unavailable. Second best. Must be on Channel 5 books, courtesy of thon guy who owned the 'Daily Sport' or something.

Kaye's still looking for the big job in the south, must be the larger wage cheque. Nae fooling these Unionists.
# Ken500 2011-10-24 23:22
'Anti-English' feeling in the North East?

All the English (and other nationalities) in the North East vote SNP. It's an SNP stronghold. They see the Oil meters turning on the rigs.
The money disappearing south.

The North East has waited 30 years for an essential bypass and some dual carriageing. . The traffic is coming to a standstill, affecting the North East growing economy, while all the Oil money goes south.

Folk are raging
# Ken500 2011-10-24 23:24
Newsnicht is just a rant against the SNP and their support. Pathetic.
# pa_broon74 2011-10-24 23:34
Remember folks.

Those against Independence are not English, they're 'British'.

The English are as lied to as we are in this odd union. Its all about unionist self-interest and nest feathering.

It does none of us any favours.
# Ken500 2011-10-24 23:36
There is a LibDem ad for a prosperous Scotland beside this thread


Don't tell 'em it's useless. They are just getting used again.
# Ken500 2011-10-24 23:38
Why are there symbols beside some posts?

Is MI5 Listening in?
# oldnat 2011-10-24 23:41
I have no idea what you are referring to. There is a # before all posts.
# pa_broon74 2011-10-24 23:44
Yes, yes they are.

They're always listening, to your every word.

In fact, I might be MI5 but then this might be a bluff, or a double bluff or a treble bluff and as on and so forth...

# Alba4Eva 2011-10-24 23:52
Nah, Its been a long time since MI5 bothered with us Nats... theres just too flaming many of us now!

# Roll_On_2011 2011-10-24 23:52

Why are there symbols beside some posts?

Is MI5 Listening in?

This is a time stamp for each comment posted.

If you click on this # symbol it will give you a unique link to a comment in the ‘url’ address bar, and can be used as a link to a particular post. You may also note the number on the far right of the address, each number is incremented by ‘1’ as each comment is published.

For example:

Will take you to my last comment on this site.
# Embradon 2011-10-25 01:44
Well well - every day is a school day!
# Roll_On_2011 2011-10-25 00:40
Here is me thinking that liberal meant ‘open minded’. Yet with Moore it means ‘open mouthed’ and he does not even put his mind into gear before he opens it.
# Embradon 2011-10-25 02:13
I hope TAoMoridura is on the case to get tonight's Newsnight and Newsnicht on Ya tube. It was priceless.

Little Englanders scratching each others eyes over Europe, followed by Norman Lamont and Paxo conceding that Norway was in a special position to negotiate with the EU - on account of its "natural resources" (NL) specifically "North Sea oil" (paxo).

Then, for afters, Tories arguing over who gets to rearrange their deck chairs as HMS Union holds its course towards the iceberg.

If the SNP had been given a 45 minute referendum broadcast, they could not have done better.
# Sulzer27 2011-10-25 05:53
Whilst this article is of use highlight once again that every time Moore opens his mouth, he is wrong, it also gives an opportunity to clarify a point. No-one should now argue that small countries cannot contribute to such a military operation, but the fundamental point is that the small countries quoted above - had the choice.

They can choose to contribute on humanitarian grounds or can choose to contribute to bolster some other nations oil contracts. They can choose to help remove one troublesome dictator, whilst leaving others in office. It remains their option and they stand accountable to their people alone.

My hope is that as an independent nation Scotland would choose wisely.
# J Wil 2011-10-25 08:43
"...every time Moore opens his mouth, he is wrong,..."

Facts have never got in the way of Moore's ramblings.

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