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The SNP has reacted angrily to plans by the UK Treasury to use public finances in order to recruit an individual in Scotland in order to counter the campaign for Scottish independence.
 
The role, advertised by the UK government department, will see the successful applicant paid £50,000 of public cash in order to promote what it claims are the benefits of the Union. 

The role will become redundant in December 2014, immediately after the independence referendum.

Commenting on the revelation, SNP Treasury spokesperson Stewart Hosie accused the UK Government of planning to open a Treasury office in Scotland with the sole purpose of spreading anti-independence rhetoric.

Mr Hosie said:

"The Treasury currently employ not a single person in Scotland - it is disgraceful that they should be spending yet more public money trying to stop the people of Scotland voting for independence, when George Osborne should be doing everything he can to reverse the deep recession that the Tory/Lib Dem Treasury is responsible for.

"The disastrous job-destroying policies of the Tory/Lib Dem Treasury is a perfect illustration of exactly why Scotland needs to secure job-creating powers with independence."

According to the Treasury advert, the successful applicant will be based in Scotland but will split their working time between London and Edinburgh.  He or she will be expected to “use their location and relationships to bring significant depth and colour to analysis on the benefits of the UK.”

The job description calls on the postholder to produce “discrete” analysis in order to brief UK Ministers to help them deliver pro-Union economic messages to the Scottish electorate.

The successful applicant will also help establish and maintain “a comprehensive set of relationships with key Scottish stakeholders from business, academia and civic society, including helping to organise events.”

Interviews for the post are to be held in early August 2012.

Comments  

 
# ampocarbuile 2012-07-28 17:34
Why don't we all apply for this?
If every SNP member, every independista, every potential Yes voter, every Scot who is sick of Westminster telling us what to do all aplpied for this, it would smake their attempt at dirty tricks instantly ridiculous. If the Czechs could laugh the Communists out of power...
 
 
# pic 2012-07-28 22:10
I'm with you on this! It will never get coverage in the msm unless we clog up the recruitment process with...well crap or utterly unsuitable applicants (ideally qualified but not political in the right way...Alex S along with all of the front bench should apply).
 
 
# 1scot 2012-07-28 17:36
Keep it up Westminster, you are doing a good job for the Yes vote.
 
 
# Juteman 2012-07-28 17:38
So just like the BBC, we will be paying for anti-Independence propoganda?
Shocking.
I wonder which Judas will accept the silver.
 
 
# border reiver 2012-07-28 17:41
Is this Camerons respect agenda? It is astonishing that they can so blatently use taxpayers money like this. The link attached shows the typical Bullingdon club circles that our chancellor George Osborne and many Tories mixes in.

Anyone thinking of voting no should read this article and take a long hard look at Osbornes mates and ask themselves is this what they want for the future of our country and future generations
dailymail.co.uk/.../index.html
 
 
# UpSpake 2012-07-28 17:44
This is a very dangerous move on the part of the Westminster government. Using public funds to re-inforce the views of the dependency agenda whilst subverting the fair and reasonable campaign for self determination of the Scots nation is in clear breach of international standards if not law.
Article 1 of the United Nations Charter clearly lays down the rules for a 'mother' country to follow.
The charter expressly forbades any interference in the efforts of the 'emerging' nation and if this is not interference then, what is ?.
 
 
# Marga B 2012-07-28 19:52
If this is so, then an appeal must be made to Europe.

Anyway, who could possibly apply? It's like applying to be a hangman.
 
 
# oldnat 2012-07-29 00:37
That's not in Article 1 of the UN Charter

www.un.org/.../chapter1.shtml

Can you give the actual source?
 
 
# Adrian B 2012-07-29 02:10
oldnat,

From your link, the most relevant parts that I can see are chapter VIII, Article 55 and chapter XI, Articles 73 and 74.

I think we might all follow this with some interest. Westminster and the MSM have no interest in this story.
 
 
# pstew 2012-07-28 17:48
How will they carry out the interview process? What questions will they ask? will they do background checks to ensure you are british and not Scottish? Can someone not do a black op on this? undercover Nat? I think we should all apply, can you put up a link to the job application?
 
 
# .Scot 2012-07-28 17:54
Will the "successful Applicant" be permitted to hold several other posts (nudge-nudge, wink-wink) as I needed special written clearance for my Emergency medical rescue post & all evening work?

I hold reservations about the wording of the passage: The UK Government is undertaking an extensive and collaborative programme of analytical work on the benefits of the UK, in the run up to the proposed referendum on Scottish independence. As part of this, the Treasury is increasing its analysis of the Scottish economy and continuing to expand its relationships with key Scottish stakeholders.

This sounds like propaganda led "SayNo" campaign which breaches the Home Office's Electoral Commission's own laws on the referendum.
hm-treasury.gov.uk/.../...
 
 
# Radge 2012-07-28 18:04
Fear not: From Page 3 of the Job Description it appears Achieving Results is not one of the Key Competencies required.
 
 
# mutterings 2012-07-28 18:11
There is a job advert for the post: economistjobs.com/.../...
 
 
# doctor_zaius 2012-07-29 08:45
Just looked and there have been alterations, I suspect. Gone is "discrete" analysis (now plain analysis) and they must now work autonomously (as opposed to independently separately)

Edit: that is the Economist advert. The Treasury one remains as discussed.
 
 
# Adrian B 2012-07-28 18:13
More flag waving from the Unionists. More scare stories for Scottish business and nothing to help Scottish business out of Westminster's bottomless pit of spite.

Who will be the tin foil hat wearing numpty that takes up this position?

As this person will be a civil servant, they will not be answerable to the obliging British media, the people of Scotland and probably not even the UK Government. This whole system stinks to high hell.

British Spy with an agenda to rattle the Yes campaign, would be a better description of the Job Title.

Lets look at some of the requirements for the job then.

Items in bold, have been highlighted by me.


Key competencies

Thinking strategically Y
Managing people Y
Managing resources N
Analysis and use of evidence Y
Open communication Y
Achieving results N
Thinking and developing professionally N
Appreciating people N
Delivering together Y


Blimey, this really is Jobs for the boys stuff.
Just perfect for a failed Labour politician wanting back on the anti independence, just say no to the SNP bandwagon.

'The postholder would be expected to split their first 1-2 months between Edinburgh and London to build
relationships and understand how HM Treasury and the UK Government operates.'
- Most of us understand the jist of this, so the results will not be any surprise to anyone outside of London and the South East.
 
 
# Fixy 2012-07-28 18:53
Loving the irony in Person Specification at the bottom of page 2 "Ability to work independently" lol.

hm-treasury.gov.uk/.../...
 
 
# Embradon 2012-07-28 20:39
Surely they meant separately.
 
 
# ButeHouse 2012-07-28 19:16
“discrete” analysis = code for lies, disinformation and misinformation....

...to brief UK Ministers to help them deliver pro-Union economic messages to the Scottish electorate = just in case the candidates are too thick to decode the first bit this let's them know EXACTLY what they are expected to do.

VOTE YES in 2014
 
 
# McDuff 2012-07-28 20:05
We need to be able to counter anti independence propoganda and the only way is through some kind of media as tv and newspapers are rabid Unionists. I am disappointed though that only £3300 has been raised for the BBC film.
 
 
# pictlandman 2012-07-28 20:11
come on people dont think for one moment this individual has not already been chosen.
 
 
# Alba_Gael 2012-07-28 20:22
My Father-in-law, who is Maltese, and lived through his country's independence, warned me consistently to expect 'every dirty trick in the book'. I someone how doubt this will be the worst example of underhand tactics we'll see before 2014.
 
 
# forrabest 2012-07-28 20:28
another step in the anti-indi dirty tricks campaign
 
 
# Edna Caine 2012-07-28 21:52
The Civil Service Code paragraph 4.4.11 -

"Civil servants must not take part in any political activity when on duty, or in uniform, or on official premises"

This job cannot be advertised without breaking the code and the Cabinet Office must look into the ramifications of this. Failure to do so renders the CSC efectively invalid and frees any civil servant from the obligation to adhere to its political restrictions.

ictregulationtoolkit.org/.../...
 
 
# oldnat 2012-07-28 23:51
Thanks for that.

I've sent this to the Cabinet Office

"I am frankly astonished that this post has been advertised in the terms that it has.

A requirement for "knowledge of analysis of the Scottish economy, along with the benefits Scotland derives from the UK." specifies the partisan political stance required of the successful candidate.

Can you explain how this squares with Civil Service Code paragraph 4.4.11 -

"Civil servants must not take part in any political activity when on duty, or in uniform, or on official premises"?

Are you redefining "political activity" as only applying to partisan activity between the main UK political parties? If so, it is difficult to see how any court wouldn't strike down such a politicised appointment."
 
 
# oldnat 2012-07-29 00:17
Just saw this in the CS Code as well

This Code should be seen in the context of the duties and responsibilitie s set out for UK Ministers in the Ministerial Code, or in equivalent documents drawn up for Ministers of the Scottish Executive or for the National Assembly for Wales, which include:
4.1.3
the duty not to use public resources for party political purposes, to uphold the political impartiality of the Civil Service, and not to ask civil servants to act in any way which would conflict with the Civil Service Code;
 
 
# setondene 2012-07-28 22:05
Judging from the pay and holiday entitlements this is not seen as being a high profile or senior post.
 
 
# Edulis 2012-07-28 22:26
Agree, this is the lower end of a middle management post in the Civil Service. What is it meant to deliver? I can only see it as doing leg work for the Treasury but with no real innovation, no real ability to grasp the issues.
 
 
# Edna Caine 2012-07-29 00:14
Quoting Edulis:
Agree, this is the lower end of a middle management post in the Civil Service. What is it meant to deliver? I can only see it as doing leg work for the Treasury but with no real innovation, no real ability to grasp the issues.


The post is advertised at Grade 7 or 6, i.e. "levels immediately below the Senior Civil Service" who are defined as "politically restricted" by the Civil Service Code paragraph 4.4.9 (see my link above).

This is not lower middle management level. In any case, para 4.4.11 applies to all civil servants, politically restricted or not.
 
 
# mealer 2012-07-28 22:34
Could some of the more computer savy people on here please bring this to the attention of UN and Council of Europe?Maybe send them a link to the job advert?
I dont know how to do links but I'll send an email if someone posts the correct addresses.
 
 
# DonaldMhor 2012-07-29 07:37
The ghost of Daniel Defoe.



It has been suggested that this advertising for this post is in breach of UN convention, and the COE.

I don't have the words to put to send to the UN, or the legality that this must surely breach, but someone will have those words and you can start by submitting it electronically here and then followed by a letter. If someone drafts the letters I will post them.

The UN contact form is here:
www.un.org/en/contactus/

And here is the contacts for the Council Of Europe:
www.coe.int/.../contact.asp



Good luck.
 
 
# forrabest 2012-07-28 22:57
maybe johann will apply
 
 
# deepthroat 2012-07-28 23:38
What this development is telling the people of Scotland is that London needs Scotland more than Scotland needs London

Now what about something we did not know
 
 
# redcliffe 2012-07-29 03:23
The reality is that people will vote with their wallets and not with their heart.

If the SNP PROVE that everyone will be better off and pensions paid, that will do for most folk. But proving it is another matter.

Getting independent economists to confirm that everyone is better off and not 5000 worse off as per Tony Blair diahorrea in 2007 then that will be a help.
Then get the NO campaign to be forced to agree Scots will be better off economically.

Take control of the agenda.

an extra 1000 pounds a year for you, or do you want it spend in London as usual?

That is the key. They can deny it, but one can turn the gross overspend on the Olympics into an advantage.

Send out Soames' comments in London about oil being the golden goose keeping the UK afloat. Coming from a Tory that comment has merit. Demand through FOI that the UK government admit that Scotland will be better off, and that the 1998 documents confirming this should be released.

Not releasing it should bring about ridicule. at every occasion, ask why they are not released as they show Scotland will be richer and more successful without London creaming it off the top. Force them to do so.

Lastly send a copy of the McCrone report out, or a 1 page summary, stating that they lied about the oil before and they are lying now, and rather than paying for facilities in London we want to pay for facilities thoughout Scotland for the next 50 years that the oil will last.

London football stadiums or Glasgow hospitals. Your choice voters!

Needs to be done in such a way that the MSM has to cover it.

That is why "Its Scotland's Oil" was so successful in the 70's, it was hard to question that it should be. Simple and easy to understand.
 
 
# cjmasta 2012-07-29 12:23
I agree, get a leaflet out highlighting the lies on oil, banks,economy and defence etc and print at the bottom. Who do you trust to best represent Scotlands interests? A Scottish Government in Edinburgh or the London Government?
 
 
# Dubai_scot 2012-07-29 05:30
One has to see the funny side of this fiasco...you mean to say the No campaign cannot see their "self evident truth"?

:-)
 
 
# Alphenscot 2012-07-29 07:09
Here is a link to the council of Europe ----think I will bombard them with some stories for 30 mins to various e-mail addresses on here.If we all do it then maybe (just maybe)someone will take notice of all the Nazi styled propaganda that the Msm are using against Scotland.

coe.int/.../...
 
 
# EphemeralDeception 2012-07-29 07:22
Well it does prove that there is no real argument for the benefits of the UK toScotland and they are going to employ someone fulltime to try to make a 'discrete' case.

They will spend each day trying to find examples of where the UK structure benefits Scotland.
They are employed to ignore any case where the UK disadvantages Scotland.
They are employed to ignore each case where Scotland benefits the rest of the UK.
In cases where the UK provides some advantages they are employed to ignore any and all negative aspects no matter how large.

It doesn't sound too hard for the no campaign to expose this remit, its daily practice and the partisan job for what it is when the time comes.
 
 
# Ready to Start 2012-07-29 07:28
If this had been the SNP appointment there would be front page banner headlines with an outrageously negative strapline and this has been a good day for the Tories Together to leak out the bad news as this blatantly political appointment has not been mentioned in Sunday Times or Sunday Herald or on BBC TV news.
 
 
# Alphenscot 2012-07-29 07:30
Loads of contacts here.

coe.int/.../...

I am e-mailing this guy The Secretary general who probably gets kick backs from UK but who knows we might get lucky if we keep at him --he will get lots of e-mails from me from now until 2014.
 
 
# Alphenscot 2012-07-29 09:04
Here is a link for a russian news channel that doesn't shy away from reporting about the cyclists being pepper sprayed at the limpics.I have been hitting them with the truth about UK lies and deciet --we should keep at it and get some allies onside that see wasteminster for what they are.Thieves and liars.Hope the fsb en.wikipedia.org/.../... don't come looking for me on behalf of MI5 or there will be a couple of assassins getting a touch of the old "william wallace"medicine!!
www.youtube.com/.../



coe.int/.../...
 
 
# Jim Johnston 2012-07-29 10:37
Just another SOS from Westminster.."Same Old S***" that is.
 
 
# proudscot 2012-07-29 10:38
Ming Campbell would be an ideal appointee for this anti-independence job. I heard him this morning on a Radio 4 programme eulogising the London Olympics opening ceremony and HM's cameo role with Daniel Craig.

Quite disgracefully Campbell not only took the opportunity to snipe at Alex Salmond's vocal support for the Scottish athletes, but then went on to talk down the chances of success of any Scottish Olympics Squad in any future Olympics, if Scotland attains independence.

What a shower of anti-Scotland propagandists these Scots Liberals are, in support of their Tory masters in the Westminster coalition government.
 
 
# DonaldMhor 2012-07-29 23:14
Quoting proudscot:
Ming Campbell would be an ideal appointee for this anti-independence job. I heard him this morning on a Radio 4 programme eulogising the London Olympics opening ceremony and HM's cameo role with Daniel Craig.

Quite disgracefully Campbell not only took the opportunity to snipe at Alex Salmond's vocal support for the Scottish athletes, but then went on to talk down the chances of success of any Scottish Olympics Squad in any future Olympics, if Scotland attains independence.

What a shower of anti-Scotland propagandists these Scots Liberals are, in support of their Tory masters in the Westminster coalition government.



What Ming and his Brittanic ilk have not realised is that per capita Scotland's record in comparison to England in sport is much better.




Football: Home internationals: England have won 45, Scotland 41, and there have been 24 draws.

Per capita Scotland has a much better record than England in the home internationals, the fact that we don't qualify for major tournament saves us the humiliation that the arrogant prima donnas of England bring to that sad wee country.

Per capita Scotland has a far better record than England in the Commonwealth games tally Commonwealth Gold medals.

Scotland are at 192,308 of the population per medal.
England are at 359,790 of the population per medal.

GDP PER MEDAL:
Scotland = 6.312 ($m)
England = 11,954 ($m)

news.bbc.co.uk/.../default.stm
 
 
# ituna semea 2012-07-29 12:06
"The First Minister has advertised for a new director of external affairs, who will be paid up to £162,500 per year – more than the UK’s Foreign Secretary – and take charge of 120 staff across the globe.
Among the key duties of the post holder, who will report directly to Mr Salmond, are seeking “international recognition as an independent country in the event of a ‘yes’ vote” in the forthcoming referendum."

So Mr Salmond is now going to pay someone an eye watering salary to report to him on something which is not his responsibility.
 
 
# Mei 2012-07-29 12:34
Sounds like a suitable job for Tom McCabe

dailyrecord.co.uk/.../...
 
 
# Amroth 2012-07-30 16:00
I don't see the problem. The Conservative Party is a Unionist party, elected to protect and serve the Union.

The SNP has used public funds to promote SNP Council candidates. Similarly, the SNP has plans for a "rival foreign office" to cheerlead their independence plans on the international stage.

What's the difference?
 

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