By Martin Kelly

The campaign group, Labour For Independence (LFI), has announced the line-up for their first conference scheduled for this coming Monday, Nov 12th.

The conference, which will be held in the UTC at Glasgow Caledonian University, begins at 7:30pm and is aimed at Labour party members past or present or those who may be thinking of joining, who are keen to find out more about Scottish independence.

Members of the general public can also attend the event which will hear from some of Scotland’'s most influential and knowledgeable commentators.

Joining a host of respected political figures and artists will be former Trade Union leader Tommy Brennan.

Mr Brennan was Works Convener of the Ravenscraig Shop Stewards, and the man who led the fight to save the Scottish steel industry in the 1980s and 1990s.  He worked at the Lanarkshire steel plant for 31 years until 1991.

Also speaking will be former Labour great Dennis Canavan who as an MP and then MSP made his mark on both UK and Scottish politics with his unflinching adherence to social democratic principles.

"Mr Canavan is the kind of man the Labour party was once proud of.  He stands for everything Labour once was and can be again.  We need people like Dennis who can think for themselves,"” said LFI West Coast Co-ordinator Alex Bell.

Elgin man, Blair Jenkins who rose to head news and current affairs at both STV and BBC Scotland, and now heads the Yes Scotland pro-independence campaign, will also be speaking.

"Having the head of Yes Scotland willing to come and speak at our event and help promote what we are doing can only strengthen our ties with their campaign,"” said LFI campaign organiser, Jude Letham.

The line-up also includes musician and broadcaster Ricky Ross who will be sharing his journey to independence as well as former special adviser to Jack McConnell - Jeane Freeman and Dr John MacDonald who is a lecturer in the Politics and International Development Programme at the University of Dundee.

Labour For Independence was set up by Scottish Labour party member Allan Grogan who became frustrated at the continual refusal of party bosses to acknowledge support amongst a sizeable number of Labour party supporters for independence.  Mr Grogan will also speak at the event.

The event will run until 10pm.


# Angus 2012-11-09 07:36
Good luck to Labour for Independence, I hope they attract a lot of attention.
# Macart 2012-11-09 08:00
Now that's more like it. Labour members and voters who think for themselves and want to work for a Scotland based on social democracy. Having heard Mr Grogan's speech in Edinburgh at the independence march, the difference between listening to him and the current Scottish group leadership is like night and day. Ms Lamont should take note, this is what a real party leader sounds like and aspires to achieve.
# clootie 2012-11-10 08:48

A "return" to a Labour party who think for themselves.

The founding fathers of Labour were heavy weights in leading social change - doing it because it was the right thing to do.

Now it's do it to get elected / maintain the vote / Ed told me.

I've said before I served my apprenticeship under real socialists. Men who had gone to Spain with the International Brigade in "35 on principle.
Blair / Brown and Darling would have angered them - Johann would have had them rolling about laughing.

I respect everyones viewpoint in politics be they left or right if it's their deeply held beliefs that motivates them and not the best image for an election.

The Tories are pretty clear on their world view and you get exactly what it says on the tin - it's the LibDems and Labour who lack credibility now.
# Macart 2012-11-11 17:09

Sorry not to reply sooner, been out of town for a couple of days. Ditto clootie, I was brought up in colliery labour heartland, family members who fought hard to improve conditions down the pits. People who fought against real injustice to improve the lot of those with no hope and no power. The current team are a joke whose only interest is parliamentary power for its own sake. They have neither vision, imagination or aspiration. Their betrayal of those values which others fought for is nothing short of a disgrace.

Still, if Mr Grogan and those others attending this conference are as they appear to be, there may be a Labour party worth the name yet.
# Breeks 2012-11-09 08:57
I wish them luck too, and success.

I think a pro independence movement with a separate perspective to the SNP could be a very constructive dynamic to enrich the positive discussion of Independence issues in the run up to 2014.

Positive and constructive dialogue is in all our interests, and it is quite clear No Better Together has no intention of contributing anything other than smears, falsehoods, and scaremongering propaganda.

We have two years to consolidate support for Independence, and it is a sad thing to consider how much of that time is going to be wasted fighting the peurile interference of the Better Together rabble who have so little of any substance to say.

I may have missed it, but I have yet to see the BBC even acknowledge the Labour for Independence movement even exists. It's beyond farcical.
# UpSpake 2012-11-09 09:04
From this might emerge the prospect of a Labour Party in Scotland that actually has Scotland as its focus.
The remaining part of so called Scottish Labour who takes its instructions only from London, can wither on the vine.
The best hope for the Unions if they don't ally with the SNP, is to create a party of their own which is what this might become.
Far better base for a true Scottish party who can be a viable opposition to the SNP in government.
# cardrossian 2012-11-14 07:19
The Labour party, being the Scottish backstabbers that they are, will have no moral right to seek election in an independent Scotland.

Those who still wish to vote socialist should form a new party, with no ties either to London, or the Scottish Labour Party
# gus1940 2012-11-09 09:05
I wonder what coverage,if any, this event will get from our pals in the broadcast and print media.
# Macart 2012-11-09 09:45
This is the only place I've seen it mentioned gus. I probably wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any sign on the msm.
# gus1940 2012-11-10 09:38
Somebody has posted information re the conference in a comment in today's Scotsman.

I'm surprised it passed the JP Censors but they will no doubt disappear it pretty soon.
# brusque 2012-11-09 11:08
I wish the LFI all the very best. They are showing the way to the backward current Labour pool at Holyrood.
# Silverytay 2012-11-09 12:25
As I dont do facebook , I would just like to take this opportunity to wish L.F.I all the best for Monday .
I wish they had been about 4 years ago as I might have stayed in the labour party to fight from within .
I would love to go along on Monday but unfortunately I work till late on Mondays .
Once again best wishes to all at L.F.I
# rapid 2012-11-09 16:22
is it only a matter of time before there are independence wings of all the parties?

I hope that all would be welcome under the Yes Scotland banner.
# MAcandroid 2012-11-09 23:03
All are welcome under the Yes Scotland banner as it is apolitical.

Just noticed that if you join up "Vote NO" and "Better Together" you get "No Better Together".
# ButeHouse 2012-11-09 16:40
Agree entirely with Macart and UpSpake this could well be the embryo of a real Labour Party for a post Independent Scotland.

Good luck lads, more power to your elbow. I also heard Allan Grogan speak at the Rally, shame some of the current Labour MSP's couldn't have been there to listen to him.

# stewart kellett 2012-11-09 17:27
I wish the Labour group well. They at least are listening to their voters. I won't hold my breath that this conference will be given much coverage by the media if any. But I don't think they will be very popular with their leaders. They may even be deselected for the next election. Well done them for standing up for what they believe and not towing the party line. Theres hope yet.
# pmcrek 2012-11-09 20:31
Thats a pretty strong line up, hope its a success.
# RaboRuglen 2012-11-09 20:41
Hi there,

Are tickets required or can members of the public just turn up?

# cynicalHighlander 2012-11-09 21:21
Quoting RaboRuglen:
Hi there,

Are tickets required or can members of the public just turn up?


Labour voters for Scottish Independence:

Labour for Independence:
# mutterings 2012-11-09 21:22
Quoting RaboRuglen:
Are tickets required or can members of the public just turn up?

No; see for details.
# RaboRuglen 2012-11-10 10:17
Hi there,

Thanks guys.

# forrabest 2012-11-10 00:29
Quite a good line-up of speakers would be interesting to read an honest report on it. Will NNS be sending someone along to do a full report for this site?
# DJ 2012-11-10 01:22
I wish them luck too. Never had this feeling of the once great labour party; to me they've kept the poor very poor.

I'm centre right and have greater ambitions for the people of Easterhouse than Stairheid Rammy ever had.

However, I'll take Independence and then argue the toss at the next general election like every other normal country does. Sorry, we've to predict Interest rates, unemployment rates and sexually transmitted disease rates in Scotland in future. Lying Unionists? No, Night follows day!
# Jim Johnston 2012-11-10 08:43
More power to LFI's elbow.
They will get nothing but scorn from the MSM and the BBC, but knowing they are in the right, and appreciated by the public, should sustain them.

Labour now are a pale shadow of what they once were. Jimmy Reid recognised that fact years ago but would be proud to know his ideals are not entirely dead in the organisation he once believed would fight for social justice. That was his stated reason for joining the SNP and perhaps a few speakers will follow him down that path. At the very least, they could become the core offering genuine opposition guiding an Independent Scotland. For the time being the sad fact for democracy is that there is no opposition in Holyrood only a "you say sugar, we say s****" gaggle of numpties.
# ds12 2012-11-10 10:45
Now wouldn't it be funny if we had a spoof organisation called lets say "SNP for the union".BBC Scotland would be falling over the Record and the Herald to get coverage of such an organisation.
# gedguy2 2012-11-10 14:44
I have never voted for Labour because of what they did to my home town of Dundee in the 60s. I haven't voted for Labour because the are socialists, I haven't voted for them because they aren't socialists. However, the more I read about the Labour for Independence online the more I have hope of the resurrection of the Labour party that Keir Hardie would have been proud of.
# Dundonian West 2012-11-10 15:26
Trade Unionists for Scottish Independence,se t up in June of this year.
I knew about the Labour for Indy,but not the Trade Unionists.
Surprise to me.

Scroll down page to see Johann cornerd by Trade Union members on Indy for Scotland..
# call me dave 2012-11-10 17:25
Great find!
Thanks for the link:
Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont was confronted by angry demonstrators from the CWU, supported by TU4SI, when she turned up to speak at a meeting of CWU Political Officers in Edinburgh yesterday. CWU members were angry that, despite the fact that the union has yet to adopt a position on the issue, leaders had invited her to speak on the referendum whilst ignoring the views of the YES campaign widely supported within the branch and throuhout the country.

The TU4SI banner was there amid placards from the CWU and others, proclaiming "Decison by debate - not by Dictat" The demonstrations is proof the union members will not allow their leaders to foist a NO campaign on them by stealth.
# cynicalHighlander 2012-11-11 13:44
Ross rallies Labour fans of independence:

Thomson also attacked the Scottish Labour party’s stance on devolution. “This idea of a devolution committee for Labour came out after the debate started. Labour has not yet set out its stall,” he said. “The Labour leadership’s position has been reactive to independence since the mid 1970s. It has taken quite cynical steps to stop the surge of the SNP. Rather than taking principled decisions Labour’s moves have been based on electoral considerations.”
# Ayes On The Prize 2012-11-13 11:01
It will be interesting to see how our friends at the BBC & STV report this - or not ! Will they both ignore it ?
# Ayes On The Prize 2012-11-13 13:47
Just watched Reporting Scotland lunch time edtion. Sod all about the Labour For Independence meeting - BUT 2nd billing was given to a House of Lords committee critical of the Edinburgh Agreement.

Surprised anyone ?

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